OzOne wrote:

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 13:18:28 +1300, Nav
scribbled thusly:


Hi Joe,

My ditch bag is a clear water proof soft bag that will float and is very
easy to carry. EPIRB and VHF with spare batteries for the VHF and
waterproof flash lights (one has high efficiency LED bulb -I modified a
maglight myself and the other super bright halogen bulb). Very good
fishing lures and line (mainly to take care of boredom?) 6 compact dual
smoke/flame flares, 10 l water, high sugar emergency ration bars,
inflatable solar still. 2 tubs zinc oxide (sun screen and sores). Water
proof matches. Mini pocket bible, water proof paper and pencils. Usual
first aid kit with sutures and iodine as well as sea sickness tablets,
salt tablets, diarrhea tablets, two types of antibiotic and appetite
reduction tablets. Needles and thread. Length of paracord and 2 swiss
army knives. Passports go in it as well if we go offshore. Whistles and
strobes are on all the lifejackets.

I didn't include a GPS. I have no gun as I don't think I'm going to have
to fight off my rescuers...


Hmmm, I also include a couple of tubes of Bepanthen...way better than
anything else for sores or rashes and sealing over cuts.....and hats,
full brimmed hats.

I have another bag that I'd grab if time allowed it contains dry
clothes, long sleeved tops and most importantly spare hats.


Good point there. Even zinc is not as good as a hat. How about
sunglasses too?

Cheers

It floats easily. Most of the items are not really that dense, and even
the heaviest item (the water bottle) floats by itself.

Cheers

Joe wrote:

Nav wrote in message ...

Hi Joe,

My ditch bag is a clear water proof soft bag that will float and is very
easy to carry.


Can it float with so much gear? Do you blow it up or what?




EPIRB

My epirb is mounted and teathered to the mizzen mast. Just incase I
can not get to a ditch kit


and VHF with spare batteries for the VHF and

waterproof flash lights (one has high efficiency LED bulb -I modified a
maglight myself and the other super bright halogen bulb).


The LED flashlight is cool and a good ideal. I will get one soon. Also
would like an IR strobe

Very good

fishing lures and line (mainly to take care of boredom?)


Mine are for catching food.

6 compact dual

smoke/flame flares, 10 l water, high sugar emergency ration bars,



inflatable solar still.


Another nice item I do not have. How big is your and how much water
will it make?



2 tubs zinc oxide (sun screen and sores).

It in my First aid pck

Water

proof matches. Mini pocket bible, water proof paper and pencils. Usual
first aid kit with sutures and iodine as well as sea sickness tablets,
salt tablets, diarrhea tablets, two types of antibiotic and appetite
reduction tablets. Needles and thread. Length of paracord and 2 swiss
army knives. Passports go in it as well if we go offshore. Whistles and
strobes are on all the lifejackets.

I didn't include a GPS. I have no gun as I don't think I'm going to have
to fight off my rescuers...


Sharks tend to be attracted to rafts, they are looking for fish under
them.
A .25 is great for shooting them if they get agressive and start
bumbing your raft/boat.


Joe


Cheers

Joe wrote:


I know most here have small baots that never leave the sight of land.
But perhaps one or 2 of the ASA sailors have a ditch kit survival bag
kit.

It the first thing you grab after launching the raft or lifeboat.

Whats in yours?

I have flares (all kinds), smoke signals, signal mirror, water,
carmel, smokes, fishing gear, knife, patch kit, first aid kit,
matches, HH VHF, HH GPS, flashlight, strobe, .25 pistol, whistles,
knife, solar blankets.

My kit is in a floating watertight surplus 50cal ammo box and painted
on it is ABANDON SHIP KIT

What else should an deep water ditch kit contain?

Joe

One thing I didn't think of at the time, but should have, was that in the
circumstances in which I actually used salt tablets (extreme water loss due
to heavy work in very hot conditions), water intake was not a problem (i.e.,
unlimited drinking water was available). So in that case, I guess
replenishing salt makes sense, whereas in a water rationing situation, it
makes sense not to exasperate the dehydration problem with more salt intake.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

Yep, I got a few of his tricky questions wrong. For instance, I voted to
kill and eat a rabbit, in spite of low water rations, and he gave me the
thumbs down, saying I'd use up precious water digesting the critter.

I guess that would depend on whether and what you sh*t afterwards... Since
you can produce urine more concentrated that tissue fluid I'd say you
should gain water from eating nice juicy rabbit muscle (bled of course).

Cheers

Maybe but salt has other uses as well. Do not underestimate the effects
of electrolyte loss (rehydrate is better) if people are sick.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

One thing I didn't think of at the time, but should have, was that in the
circumstances in which I actually used salt tablets (extreme water loss due
to heavy work in very hot conditions), water intake was not a problem (i.e.,
unlimited drinking water was available). So in that case, I guess
replenishing salt makes sense, whereas in a water rationing situation, it
makes sense not to exasperate the dehydration problem with more salt intake.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:


Yep, I got a few of his tricky questions wrong. For instance, I voted to
kill and eat a rabbit, in spite of low water rations, and he gave me the
thumbs down, saying I'd use up precious water digesting the critter.

I guess that would depend on whether and what you sh*t afterwards... Since
you can produce urine more concentrated that tissue fluid I'd say you
should gain water from eating nice juicy rabbit muscle (bled of course).

Cheers

I need no kit because I sail the Chesapeake bay and its tributaries
exclusively and one cannot drown in the these waters. They are so polluted
that the e-coli and pesticides will kill you before you can drown, let alone
use a ditch kit.

In article ,
Vito wrote:
I need no kit because I sail the Chesapeake bay and its tributaries
exclusively and one cannot drown in the these waters. They are so polluted
that the e-coli and pesticides will kill you before you can drown, let alone
use a ditch kit.

Don't need a ditch bag in the SF bay either. The currents are so fast
that you'll either wind up in Hawaii before you drown or in Bezerkeley
and get hit up for some spare change.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Yikes! Was it you who used to claim they were the best sailing waters in
the world?

Cheers

Vito wrote:

I need no kit because I sail the Chesapeake bay and its tributaries
exclusively and one cannot drown in the these waters. They are so polluted
that the e-coli and pesticides will kill you before you can drown, let alone
use a ditch kit.