Nav,
I was in a survival course this past July. Somewhere in my past I was told
to consume salt when sweating a lot. So I put salt in my theoretical
survival bag. The class expert (some Australian who's survived every desert
on the planet, and whose name I could recall only if forced to) informed
those of us who chose salt that we were dinosaurs, and we should throw the
salt away immediately. I believe he said I was a victim of uninformed
football coaches, to be exact.
Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout

"Nav" wrote
[snip]
salt tablets

I'd say he is wrong (IMHO). Salt depletion _can_ be a problem
(especially with diarrhea) and drinking sea water to replace salt may be
bad due to the magnesium. If you need 7% saline for wounds or eyebaths
then pure salt is preferred over sea water. Hence salt tablets.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

Nav,
I was in a survival course this past July. Somewhere in my past I was told
to consume salt when sweating a lot. So I put salt in my theoretical
survival bag. The class expert (some Australian who's survived every desert
on the planet, and whose name I could recall only if forced to) informed
those of us who chose salt that we were dinosaurs, and we should throw the
salt away immediately. I believe he said I was a victim of uninformed
football coaches, to be exact.
Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout

"Nav" wrote

[snip]
salt tablets

Yep, I got a few of his tricky questions wrong. For instance, I voted to
kill and eat a rabbit, in spite of low water rations, and he gave me the
thumbs down, saying I'd use up precious water digesting the critter.
Actually, the point of the exercise was to show how groups tend to do better
than individuals. We were given individual scores on the survival test, and
then were allowed to collaborate and come to agreement on team answers.
Every single person did better with the group than they did alone.
Interestingly, the facilitator told us that the only groups he has ever
worked with that did worse when working together were police.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...
I'd say he is wrong (IMHO). Salt depletion _can_ be a problem (especially
with diarrhea) and drinking sea water to replace salt may be bad due to
the magnesium. If you need 7% saline for wounds or eyebaths then pure salt
is preferred over sea water. Hence salt tablets.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

Nav,
I was in a survival course this past July. Somewhere in my past I was
told to consume salt when sweating a lot. So I put salt in my theoretical
survival bag. The class expert (some Australian who's survived every
desert on the planet, and whose name I could recall only if forced to)
informed those of us who chose salt that we were dinosaurs, and we should
throw the salt away immediately. I believe he said I was a victim of
uninformed football coaches, to be exact.
Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout

"Nav" wrote

[snip]
salt tablets

Scout wrote:

Yep, I got a few of his tricky questions wrong. For instance, I voted to
kill and eat a rabbit, in spite of low water rations, and he gave me the
thumbs down, saying I'd use up precious water digesting the critter.

I guess that would depend on whether and what you sh*t afterwards...
Since you can produce urine more concentrated that tissue fluid I'd say
you should gain water from eating nice juicy rabbit muscle (bled of course).

Cheers

Oops, typo I mean .7% saline.

Cheers

Nav wrote:

I'd say he is wrong (IMHO). Salt depletion _can_ be a problem
(especially with diarrhea) and drinking sea water to replace salt may be
bad due to the magnesium. If you need 7% saline for wounds or eyebaths
then pure salt is preferred over sea water. Hence salt tablets.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

Nav,
I was in a survival course this past July. Somewhere in my past I was
told to consume salt when sweating a lot. So I put salt in my
theoretical survival bag. The class expert (some Australian who's
survived every desert on the planet, and whose name I could recall
only if forced to) informed those of us who chose salt that we were
dinosaurs, and we should throw the salt away immediately. I believe he
said I was a victim of uninformed football coaches, to be exact.
Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout

"Nav" wrote

[snip]
salt tablets

Well this web expert seems to agree with you:

http://members.cox.net/drslim/ch2.html

Cheers

Scout wrote:

Nav,
I was in a survival course this past July. Somewhere in my past I was told
to consume salt when sweating a lot. So I put salt in my theoretical
survival bag. The class expert (some Australian who's survived every desert
on the planet, and whose name I could recall only if forced to) informed
those of us who chose salt that we were dinosaurs, and we should throw the
salt away immediately. I believe he said I was a victim of uninformed
football coaches, to be exact.
Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout

"Nav" wrote

[snip]
salt tablets

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:02:15 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:


Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout


I put it on my driveway during the winter.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

You should throw it over your shoulder, given what a lousy boat you have.
You need all the luck you can get!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:02:15 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:


Anyway, I was wondering under what circumstances you would use your salt.
Scout


I put it on my driveway during the winter.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Oh and I forgot the mylar space blankets.

Cheers

Nav wrote:

Hi Joe,

My ditch bag is a clear water proof soft bag that will float and is very
easy to carry. EPIRB and VHF with spare batteries for the VHF and
waterproof flash lights (one has high efficiency LED bulb -I modified a
maglight myself and the other super bright halogen bulb). Very good
fishing lures and line (mainly to take care of boredom?) 6 compact dual
smoke/flame flares, 10 l water, high sugar emergency ration bars,
inflatable solar still. 2 tubs zinc oxide (sun screen and sores). Water
proof matches. Mini pocket bible, water proof paper and pencils. Usual
first aid kit with sutures and iodine as well as sea sickness tablets,
salt tablets, diarrhea tablets, two types of antibiotic and appetite
reduction tablets. Needles and thread. Length of paracord and 2 swiss
army knives. Passports go in it as well if we go offshore. Whistles and
strobes are on all the lifejackets.

I didn't include a GPS. I have no gun as I don't think I'm going to have
to fight off my rescuers...

Cheers

Joe wrote:

I know most here have small baots that never leave the sight of land.
But perhaps one or 2 of the ASA sailors have a ditch kit survival bag
kit.

It the first thing you grab after launching the raft or lifeboat.

Whats in yours?

I have flares (all kinds), smoke signals, signal mirror, water,
carmel, smokes, fishing gear, knife, patch kit, first aid kit,
matches, HH VHF, HH GPS, flashlight, strobe, .25 pistol, whistles,
knife, solar blankets.

My kit is in a floating watertight surplus 50cal ammo box and painted
on it is ABANDON SHIP KIT

What else should an deep water ditch kit contain?

Joe

Nav wrote in message ...
Hi Joe,

My ditch bag is a clear water proof soft bag that will float and is very
easy to carry.

Can it float with so much gear? Do you blow it up or what?




EPIRB

My epirb is mounted and teathered to the mizzen mast. Just incase I
can not get to a ditch kit


and VHF with spare batteries for the VHF and
waterproof flash lights (one has high efficiency LED bulb -I modified a
maglight myself and the other super bright halogen bulb).

The LED flashlight is cool and a good ideal. I will get one soon. Also
would like an IR strobe

Very good
fishing lures and line (mainly to take care of boredom?)

Mine are for catching food.

6 compact dual
smoke/flame flares, 10 l water, high sugar emergency ration bars,


inflatable solar still.

Another nice item I do not have. How big is your and how much water
will it make?



2 tubs zinc oxide (sun screen and sores).

It in my First aid pck

Water
proof matches. Mini pocket bible, water proof paper and pencils. Usual
first aid kit with sutures and iodine as well as sea sickness tablets,
salt tablets, diarrhea tablets, two types of antibiotic and appetite
reduction tablets. Needles and thread. Length of paracord and 2 swiss
army knives. Passports go in it as well if we go offshore. Whistles and
strobes are on all the lifejackets.

I didn't include a GPS. I have no gun as I don't think I'm going to have
to fight off my rescuers...

Sharks tend to be attracted to rafts, they are looking for fish under
them.
A .25 is great for shooting them if they get agressive and start
bumbing your raft/boat.


Joe

Cheers

Joe wrote:

I know most here have small baots that never leave the sight of land.
But perhaps one or 2 of the ASA sailors have a ditch kit survival bag
kit.

It the first thing you grab after launching the raft or lifeboat.

Whats in yours?

I have flares (all kinds), smoke signals, signal mirror, water,
carmel, smokes, fishing gear, knife, patch kit, first aid kit,
matches, HH VHF, HH GPS, flashlight, strobe, .25 pistol, whistles,
knife, solar blankets.

My kit is in a floating watertight surplus 50cal ammo box and painted
on it is ABANDON SHIP KIT

What else should an deep water ditch kit contain?

Joe