"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

"Michael" wrote in message

Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary.

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill.

She'll never see the Oval Office unless Kerry is defeated.

Scenario #1: Kerry wins '04--runs again in '08, Hillary is now 61yo.

Scenario#2: Kerry wins '08--Edwards is the heir apparent for '12, Hillary
is 65yo. in '12. If Edwards wins in '12, he'll run again in '16, when
Hillary will then be 69 yo. Her first opportunity would then be in '20,
when she'll be 73. Not likely she'll give a rodent's posterior by then.

Scenario #3: Kerry defeated in '08--GOP now occupies the White House and
Hillary can't run until '12, when she'll be 65 yo. Possible, but highly
unlikely. See comment (XX) below.

Scenario #4: Kerry defeated in '04, Hillary runs in '08 at age 61, which is
still potentially viable, but women apparently haven't even gained
acceptance for the second spot (VP) as evidenced that none have been tapped
since Geraldine Ferraro.

XX: In '12, at age 65, Hillary won't be the dem's #1 choice. New, fresh
faces will be on the scene by then, such as Evan Bayh, Barak Obama (sorry if
misspelled). Relative youth and looks have become far too important (sadly)
in US presidential politics. Her only hope for a run at the presidency is
'08, and Kerry must lose now for that to happen. And '08 would be ideal for
her. The GOP leaves no heir apparent (Cheney?? Bwahahahaha!) for the
throne. Hillary will have face and name recognition, while the GOP will
have to field someone new or bring in the old warhorses like McCain, Lott,
or Hastert. She has a strong potential to become the first female president
in '08, but not after.

Take your pick, Jon. The choice is yours--literally.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

"Michael" wrote in message

Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary.

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill.

She'll never see the Oval Office unless Kerry is defeated.

Scenario #1: Kerry wins '04--runs again in '08, Hillary is now 61yo.

61 isn't that old for being president. But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

Scenario#2: Kerry wins '08--Edwards is the heir apparent for '12, Hillary
is 65yo. in '12. If Edwards wins in '12, he'll run again in '16, when
Hillary will then be 69 yo. Her first opportunity would then be in '20,
when she'll be 73. Not likely she'll give a rodent's posterior by then.

Scenario #3: Kerry defeated in '08--GOP now occupies the White House and
Hillary can't run until '12, when she'll be 65 yo. Possible, but highly
unlikely. See comment (XX) below.

Scenario #4: Kerry defeated in '04, Hillary runs in '08 at age 61, which
is
still potentially viable, but women apparently haven't even gained
acceptance for the second spot (VP) as evidenced that none have been
tapped
since Geraldine Ferraro.

XX: In '12, at age 65, Hillary won't be the dem's #1 choice. New, fresh
faces will be on the scene by then, such as Evan Bayh, Barak Obama (sorry
if
misspelled). Relative youth and looks have become far too important
(sadly)
in US presidential politics. Her only hope for a run at the presidency is
'08, and Kerry must lose now for that to happen. And '08 would be ideal
for
her. The GOP leaves no heir apparent (Cheney?? Bwahahahaha!) for the
throne. Hillary will have face and name recognition, while the GOP will
have to field someone new or bring in the old warhorses like McCain, Lott,
or Hastert. She has a strong potential to become the first female
president
in '08, but not after.

Take your pick, Jon. The choice is yours--literally.

Max

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

She
would win handily against Bush right now.


She couldn't beat Dan Qualye.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Why would anyone want to beat Dan Quayle... Mr. Potatoe head.

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"j" ganz @@
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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

She
would win handily against Bush right now.


She couldn't beat Dan Qualye.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

61 isn't that old for being president.

For men, perhaps, but doubtful for women. In a perfect world there would be
no difference between the sexes w/r/t age.

But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

I'll grant that she'd be a far superior candidate to run against Bush, as
opposed to Kerry.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

61 isn't that old for being president.

For men, perhaps, but doubtful for women. In a perfect world there would
be
no difference between the sexes w/r/t age.

The world is changing. But, it looks like Kerry is doing better since the
debate.

But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

I'll grant that she'd be a far superior candidate to run against Bush, as
opposed to Kerry.

That's true, but a good part of that is because her husband would be a
key advisor. :-)