What a load of crap! Here's the real story.

"Michael" wrote in message
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Couldn't let this one past even though I've already voted.


1953 Korean War 10,000 plus US soldiers dead . . . .for nothing . . . . .
.Pres.Truman A Democrat

We saved S. Korean, which is vibrant economy.

1960's and 1970's Viet-Nam War almost 60,000 US soldiers dead . . .for
nothing . . .Pres. Johnson A Democrat (while his war starting party
joins
with the enemy and spit on returning military)

Damn right. A ****ting situation. Good news, produced some fine men, such
as McCain, Bob Kerry and John Kerry.

1970's Ships can't sail, divisions can't deploy, squadrons can't fly as
thousands of senior NCO's get out in order to feed their families . .
.Thousands of GI's line Bragg Boulevard from the Fort Gates to the local
welfare office . . .object? Food Stamps Reason: Pres. Jimmy Carter A
Democrat

**** for president. Great ex-president. Oh well, I didn't vote for him.

1990's President Bubba Clinton and the eight year lesson that military
service means nothing and the military doesn't count.
and then you put Hanoi John up for election

The best, smartest president we've had in 100 years. Impeached because he
got a blow job. Probably Hyde was jealous.

A Democrat taking care of the troops? You gotta be ****ing kidding. More
like one more knife in our backs.

Ooops... what about FDR?

It's a ONE issue race, and the only issue that counts is get Kerry . .
.Your
mistake, the sleeping dogs of war are awake and let the chips of other
issues fall where they may. You shoulda just left it alone and I'd still
be
voting Libertarian. Instead I voted against Kerry and against the party
that has crapped on the military for over fifty years. And don't think it
will die down after the election. Revenge is a dish best served very very
cold and it's our turn to spit on you. If it takes a damn Republican to
bring you down well hey it took one to bring down the Evil Empire. . .this
is just one more crumb left to sweep into the garbage.

Who is "you"? I hope I was the one who influenced your vote. Better to
vote for the wrong person than not vote at all!


Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary. She's the only choice you got
for 2008. No phony military service matters BS with a woman running for
Pres. All you gotta do is change the name from Democrats to the Pussy
Party. Hell you aint got no men anyway.

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill. Sounds to me that it's penis envey
on
your part!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

"Michael" wrote in message

Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary.

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill.

She'll never see the Oval Office unless Kerry is defeated.

Scenario #1: Kerry wins '04--runs again in '08, Hillary is now 61yo.

Scenario#2: Kerry wins '08--Edwards is the heir apparent for '12, Hillary
is 65yo. in '12. If Edwards wins in '12, he'll run again in '16, when
Hillary will then be 69 yo. Her first opportunity would then be in '20,
when she'll be 73. Not likely she'll give a rodent's posterior by then.

Scenario #3: Kerry defeated in '08--GOP now occupies the White House and
Hillary can't run until '12, when she'll be 65 yo. Possible, but highly
unlikely. See comment (XX) below.

Scenario #4: Kerry defeated in '04, Hillary runs in '08 at age 61, which is
still potentially viable, but women apparently haven't even gained
acceptance for the second spot (VP) as evidenced that none have been tapped
since Geraldine Ferraro.

XX: In '12, at age 65, Hillary won't be the dem's #1 choice. New, fresh
faces will be on the scene by then, such as Evan Bayh, Barak Obama (sorry if
misspelled). Relative youth and looks have become far too important (sadly)
in US presidential politics. Her only hope for a run at the presidency is
'08, and Kerry must lose now for that to happen. And '08 would be ideal for
her. The GOP leaves no heir apparent (Cheney?? Bwahahahaha!) for the
throne. Hillary will have face and name recognition, while the GOP will
have to field someone new or bring in the old warhorses like McCain, Lott,
or Hastert. She has a strong potential to become the first female president
in '08, but not after.

Take your pick, Jon. The choice is yours--literally.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

"Michael" wrote in message

Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary.

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill.

She'll never see the Oval Office unless Kerry is defeated.

Scenario #1: Kerry wins '04--runs again in '08, Hillary is now 61yo.

61 isn't that old for being president. But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

Scenario#2: Kerry wins '08--Edwards is the heir apparent for '12, Hillary
is 65yo. in '12. If Edwards wins in '12, he'll run again in '16, when
Hillary will then be 69 yo. Her first opportunity would then be in '20,
when she'll be 73. Not likely she'll give a rodent's posterior by then.

Scenario #3: Kerry defeated in '08--GOP now occupies the White House and
Hillary can't run until '12, when she'll be 65 yo. Possible, but highly
unlikely. See comment (XX) below.

Scenario #4: Kerry defeated in '04, Hillary runs in '08 at age 61, which
is
still potentially viable, but women apparently haven't even gained
acceptance for the second spot (VP) as evidenced that none have been
tapped
since Geraldine Ferraro.

XX: In '12, at age 65, Hillary won't be the dem's #1 choice. New, fresh
faces will be on the scene by then, such as Evan Bayh, Barak Obama (sorry
if
misspelled). Relative youth and looks have become far too important
(sadly)
in US presidential politics. Her only hope for a run at the presidency is
'08, and Kerry must lose now for that to happen. And '08 would be ideal
for
her. The GOP leaves no heir apparent (Cheney?? Bwahahahaha!) for the
throne. Hillary will have face and name recognition, while the GOP will
have to field someone new or bring in the old warhorses like McCain, Lott,
or Hastert. She has a strong potential to become the first female
president
in '08, but not after.

Take your pick, Jon. The choice is yours--literally.

Max

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

She
would win handily against Bush right now.


She couldn't beat Dan Qualye.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Why would anyone want to beat Dan Quayle... Mr. Potatoe head.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

She
would win handily against Bush right now.


She couldn't beat Dan Qualye.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

61 isn't that old for being president.

For men, perhaps, but doubtful for women. In a perfect world there would be
no difference between the sexes w/r/t age.

But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

I'll grant that she'd be a far superior candidate to run against Bush, as
opposed to Kerry.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

61 isn't that old for being president.

For men, perhaps, but doubtful for women. In a perfect world there would
be
no difference between the sexes w/r/t age.

The world is changing. But, it looks like Kerry is doing better since the
debate.

But, I could live with all of these.
She
would win handily against Bush right now.

I'll grant that she'd be a far superior candidate to run against Bush, as
opposed to Kerry.

That's true, but a good part of that is because her husband would be a
key advisor. :-)

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

"Michael" wrote
Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary. ...

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill. Sounds to me that it's penis envey
on your part!



And guess what - she campaigned for GOLDWATER back when Republicans
respected liberty and fiscal sanity. She hasn't changed, the GOP has.

Well, I always liked Goldwater.

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

"Michael" wrote
Hey don't cry . . .you still got Hillary. ...

Can't wait. She'll be better than Bill. Sounds to me that it's penis
envey
on your part!



And guess what - she campaigned for GOLDWATER back when Republicans
respected liberty and fiscal sanity. She hasn't changed, the GOP has.