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Yup. True enough, I really don't get it!
And you never will. And nobody, but trailer trash like you wants to! Bwahahahaha! RB |
Think like a sailor once in awhile and not a Troller.
Why on earth would I do that, Thom? RB |
Also; A Lie is not a troll, it is still a Lie when it is proven a lie.
It is no longer a troll. Bwahahahahaaha! Yeah, keep telling yourself that, Thom! RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote ... Think like a sailor once in awhile Why on earth would I do that, Thom? pretty much sums it up, I'd say. Scotty |
BUBBLES for PRESIDENT!!!!
No yer talking! RB |
That's right booby, they don't. I've never heard or seen a line part for no
reason. 35 knots (so you claim) is not anything that should part a properly setup line in a few hours. And to have no explanation? That's absurd! But maybe my experience is a bit limited. Is there anyone else out there that can tell us of a line spontaneously parting? "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... In any case, this is not enough wind to part a proper line, properly setup. The line was setup correctly, showed no chafe and appeared fine. But lines can NEVER part unexpectedly. NEVER, NEVER, so says Jeff!!!! Hahahahahaha! RB |
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... That's right booby, they don't. I've never heard or seen a line part for no reason. 35 knots (so you claim) is not anything that should part a properly setup line in a few hours. And to have no explanation? That's absurd! If that were the case, there'd be a few thousand boats drifting in the bay. But maybe my experience is a bit limited. Is there anyone else out there that can tell us of a line spontaneously parting? Only when some fool lubber uses wash line to tie up. SV |
I've never heard or seen a line part for no
reason. 35 knots (so you claim) is not anything that should part a properly setup line in a few hours. And to have no explanation? That's absurd! Nope, properly set up lines NEVER give way. You're right, Jeff!!!! It can't happen, though everyone I see doubles up on lines because...they're bored!!! Jeff, I've seen lines go at the center. I've seen them chafe against eachother and go FAST and I've seen them popped for no reason anyone could figure. I'm sorry if you have so little experience. Want a pic of the line popped just below the snubber with no chafe? I doubt it will convince you. You're just an idiot, Jeff. Truly. Now, dance a bit more for me! RB |
Now you're claiming the line parted with no chafe??? Good Grief! And you're
claiming it happens all the time at your marina??? Right Bob. Why is it that no one else seems to have this problem? "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I've never heard or seen a line part for no reason. 35 knots (so you claim) is not anything that should part a properly setup line in a few hours. And to have no explanation? That's absurd! Nope, properly set up lines NEVER give way. You're right, Jeff!!!! It can't happen, though everyone I see doubles up on lines because...they're bored!!! Jeff, I've seen lines go at the center. I've seen them chafe against eachother and go FAST and I've seen them popped for no reason anyone could figure. I'm sorry if you have so little experience. Want a pic of the line popped just below the snubber with no chafe? I doubt it will convince you. You're just an idiot, Jeff. Truly. Now, dance a bit more for me! RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Now you're claiming the line parted with no chafe??? Good Grief! And you're claiming it happens all the time at your marina??? Please POST where I said It Happens all the time. You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times. If it happened mid line beneath the snubber, please explain to all of us what it was chafing against. Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. You've even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before. If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line. The only explanation for this is incompetance. We all eagerly await your answer. I may even forward it to Yale. I've given my explanation, what's yours? |
"Jeff Morris" wrote Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. You've even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before. If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line. his idea of checking lines is to see if they weren't stolen , yet. The only explanation for this is incompetence. YUP, gross incompetence. |
Please POST where I said It Happens all the time.
You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times. Please POST where I said it happens all the time. Please explain to EVERYONE why people will double up on ground tackle when bad weather approaches. Please tell us again how cordage NEVER fails inexplicably. RB |
Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's
no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor one. I care little about "claims" about line strength. I buy good quality oversized dockline, but I NEVER trust the label 100%. Who would? When bad weather is forecast you double up on the lines. It's easy, low cost and a basic rule. It doesn't exist because everyone's lines are chafing. Keep trusting those labels, Jeff! I prefer to practice good seamanship and add lines. This time it payed off. RB |
You've
even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before. If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line. What? Now you're telling us that you set key line and safety at the same tension??? You DO know that the safety is to be set BEHIND the key line's tension so that it's integrety is maintained rather than compromised at the same time. A safety backs up the main line. It doesn't "share the load." I tend to set mine so it catches the load at 75% extension of the main, which is high. Good grief. Game over, folks. Lines NEVER fail!!!! RB |
We all eagerly await your answer. I may even forward it to Yale.
I've given my explanation, what's yours? You have your explanation. The line failed with zero chaif and looked fine. You just can't believe that a label could lie to you or a line could simply fail under repeated loading. On the other hand, sailors I know differ and add safety lines because they KNOW you're wrong. Play the odds with your boat if you like, but stay clear of mine. 10 years and never any damage from tie ups. And you know we get a handful of nasty blows through here every year. Yale is still waiting!!! R |
YUP, gross incompetence.
How is Scotty Potti posting with all that rain and lightening? RB |
Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's
no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. Jeff *******IF******** jeffies had the degree in physics he claims he has you would know full well that loads that high and higher can be generated in a blow. jeffies is too stew ped to know what shock loads wind gusts and waves put on a boat. jeffies is now going to spend hours on end googling to find some article in BoatsUS that states the incorrect. do not try to discuss anything even remotely connected to sailing or science with jeffies unless his wife is standing behind him as he sits at a keyboard. he really is too dense for words, and he will spin circles for weeks trying to "prove" he is not dummer than a rock. |
Hahahahahaha!
RB Probably damaged during the burglary. Actually, I never thought of that! No likely though. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor one. Yup, made you look the fool...........again. |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
... Please POST where I said It Happens all the time. You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times. Please POST where I said it happens all the time. Sorry I used a figure of speak. Too much for your limited mind. So just how often do you see good lines parting for no reason? Please explain to EVERYONE why people will double up on ground tackle when bad weather approaches. Primarily because anchors can drag, and single anchors can be upset. Also, boats draging down on you can chafe a line. Worrying about a line parting in the middle is real low on the list. Please tell us again how cordage NEVER fails inexplicably. "Never" might be too strong a word. But I will say that in 45 years, I've never seen a line fail inexplicably. I've seen a few fail for good reason - its was always chafe, and usually the incompetance of the person show set it up. No one else seems to be jumping to your defence; no one has come forward to say it does happen. Yet you claim to have seen it a number of times in your more limited experiance. I don't think its for me to explain why so many "inexplicable" things happen to you, booby. |
Shouldn't you be getting ready for your 'big trip'?
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... YUP, gross incompetence. How is Scotty Potti posting with all that rain and lightening? RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote Actually, I never thought That's your problem |
Shouldn't you be getting ready for your 'big trip'?
How do you know about my sailing trip next week? We're sailing a Galaxy 32 from Oyster Bay to a place near Shark River for a furling install, then back to City Island. Two days aint a "big trip" though maybe for Scotty Potti! RB |
Please POST where I said it happens all the time.
Sorry I used a figure of speak. No, you LIED. You claimed that I said happened ALL THE TIME. I never said anything like that. Figure of speech? Yeah, sure. You're busted again. RB |
Please
tell us again how cordage NEVER fails inexplicably. "Never" might be too strong a word. Exactly. And that's why I added a line and that's why my boat is fine today and THAT'S WHY YOU'RE WRONG!!!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Hoooh ahhhh!!! Check and mate!!!! RB |
No one else seems to be jumping to your defence; no one has come forward to say
it does happen. And no one is dumb enough to say it can't. Not even the companies that make the line. Check and mate AGAIN! RB |
I don't think its for me to explain why so many
"inexplicable" things happen to you, booby. So many? Golly, I hope you're not lying again. Let's see you list these inexplicable things... RB |
the intellectual creep jeffies -- dummer than a box of rocks -- posted
something below. I have highlighted all the important stuff. Subject: Real Boat QuestionFrom: Date:10/2/200410:40AMEasternD "Bobsprit"bob ..com... Please POST where I said It Happens all the time. You the onewho said you've seen this happen anumber of times. Please POST where I said it happens all thetime.Sorry I used a figure of speak. Too much for your limited mind. So just howoften do you see good lines parting for no reason? Please explain to EVERYONE why peoplewilldoubleupongroundtacklewhenbadweatherappr oaches.Primarily because anchors can drag, and single anchors can be upset. Also,boatsdraging down on you can chafe a line. Worrying about a line parting inthe middle is real low on the list. Please tell us again how cordage NEVER fails inexplicably."Never" might be too strong a word. But I will say that in 45 years, I'venever seen a line failinexplicably. I've seen a few fail for good reason -itswas always chafe, and usually the incompetance of the person show set it up.No one else seems to be jumping to your defence; no one has come forward tosayit does happen. Yet you claim to have seen it a number of times in your morelimited experiance. I don't think its for me to explain why so many "inexplicable" things happen to you,booby. |
"Bobsprit" wrote ... Shouldn't you be getting ready for your 'big trip'? How do you know about my sailing trip next week? We're sailing a Galaxy 32 from Oyster Bay to a place near Shark River for a furling install, then back to City Island. How far is that in NM? Two days aint a "big trip" though maybe for Scotty Potti! Two days! Two whole days? at sea?......in a 32'er.......damn bob, you da man! That *is* a 'big trip'. Do you have an EPIRB, a life raft and a well stocked ditch kit? How much ice will you need to last two whole days? Scotty |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
... Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor one. Yet my lines don't break, and yours do. Who's the good dailor here? I care little about "claims" about line strength. That's obvious. You're buying garbage line. I buy good quality oversized dockline, but I NEVER trust the label 100%. Who would? When bad weather is forecast you double up on the lines. It's easy, low cost and a basic rule. It doesn't exist because everyone's lines are chafing. Keep trusting those labels, Jeff! I prefer to practice good seamanship and add lines. This time it payed off. There's nothing wrong with adding lines, although I usually leave my boat with enough lines to sustain a major blow. Gusts to 35 should be expected. But the reason for double lines is to handle the case of unexpected chafe, which might happen if another boat get loose and rubs on you lines, or if severe rocking dislodges chafe guards, etc. Booby, lines rated at 10,000 pounds do not fail for no reason. |
"Jeff Morris" wrote I don't think its for me to explain why so many "inexplicable" things happen to you, booby. Bad Karma? Katy's voo-doo doll? He's a lubbery idiot? |
Due to the fact that I'm 2 hours away from my boat, I always have
double lines. Scotty "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor one. Yet my lines don't break, and yours do. Who's the good dailor here? I care little about "claims" about line strength. That's obvious. You're buying garbage line. I buy good quality oversized dockline, but I NEVER trust the label 100%. Who would? When bad weather is forecast you double up on the lines. It's easy, low cost and a basic rule. It doesn't exist because everyone's lines are chafing. Keep trusting those labels, Jeff! I prefer to practice good seamanship and add lines. This time it payed off. There's nothing wrong with adding lines, although I usually leave my boat with enough lines to sustain a major blow. Gusts to 35 should be expected. But the reason for double lines is to handle the case of unexpected chafe, which might happen if another boat get loose and rubs on you lines, or if severe rocking dislodges chafe guards, etc. Booby, lines rated at 10,000 pounds do not fail for no reason. |
to reduce stress by doubling lines i think you would need to make sure they
are working completely together. otherwise if it is just twice as many lines.----one will work while the other is slack. if one goes south, then the other takes the load. i have yet to figure out how to do this any ideas? admitting ignorance here. gf. "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Now you're claiming the line parted with no chafe??? Good Grief! And you're claiming it happens all the time at your marina??? Please POST where I said It Happens all the time. You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times. If it happened mid line beneath the snubber, please explain to all of us what it was chafing against. Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. You've even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before. If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line. The only explanation for this is incompetance. We all eagerly await your answer. I may even forward it to Yale. I've given my explanation, what's yours? |
Booby, lines rated at 10,000 pounds do not fail for no reason.
bob, don't try to discuss anything at with jeffies. unless his wife is standing behind him while he is at the keyboard, he spends hours trying to put together complete sentences for the express purpose of showing that if he isn't exactly the brightest light under the bushel he really can show those girls at in high school who laughed at his utterly silly responses in class that he can find something somewhere he can use to "prove" someone is dummer in some respect. jeffies is a sophist, way too stupid to even begin to know what the word means. he is an intellectual creep whose entire (fictionalized) sailing experience is in training wheels and/or an old man's boat sold to those who are afraid of the water. ask the intellectual creep about his degree in physics, or was that his electrical engineering degree in physics? |
I guess it really hurts bad when you get trounced, eh jaxie?
If it make you feels this small, why do you keep making an ass of yourself? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... Booby, lines rated at 10,000 pounds do not fail for no reason. bob, don't try to discuss anything at with jeffies. unless his wife is standing behind him while he is at the keyboard, he spends hours trying to put together complete sentences for the express purpose of showing that if he isn't exactly the brightest light under the bushel he really can show those girls at in high school who laughed at his utterly silly responses in class that he can find something somewhere he can use to "prove" someone is dummer in some respect. jeffies is a sophist, way too stupid to even begin to know what the word means. he is an intellectual creep whose entire (fictionalized) sailing experience is in training wheels and/or an old man's boat sold to those who are afraid of the water. ask the intellectual creep about his degree in physics, or was that his electrical engineering degree in physics? |
Oh really? Show us where New England Rope say their line may part for no apparent reason. They do
mention a number of reasons, "inexplicable" is not one of them. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... No one else seems to be jumping to your defence; no one has come forward to say it does happen. And no one is dumb enough to say it can't. Not even the companies that make the line. Check and mate AGAIN! RB |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... Oh really? Show us where New England Rope say their line may part for no apparent reason. They do mention a number of reasons, "inexplicable" is not one of them. They should put that warning on their lines, right Jim Cate? Scotty |
Can't make the LIE go down, can you Nutsy?
How many lines parted on the boats that didn't double up :^) I know if there were any, you be shouting into the wind for all to hear. Sorry Nutsy, you're so busy defending you obvious LIE with other dumb statements and lies that you forgot the obivious LIE about other failures. Shut The Hell Up!!! Ole Thom |
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