Horvath wrote in message . ..
On 29 Sep 2004 07:26:32 -0700, (Joe) wrote
this crap:

Now that that usless uneffective ban is gone we now need to focus on
getting rid of the ban on fully automatic weapons for law abiding
citizens.

Glock make an awesome fully automatic pistol called the model 18. It
can fire 1200 9mm rounds per min. Comes with a 32 round clip.

Why should cops and the FBI be the only ones able to own one?

Because you'll runout of bullets in 1.6 seconds. Get a weapon with a
rate of fire around 350 rounds per minute.

You can set it for select fire. A 3 round burst, single, or fully automatic.
And they do sell extra clips.

Joe








Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Joe wrote:
You can set it for select fire. A 3 round burst, single, or fully automatic.
And they do sell extra clips.

The 3-round burst is what the very high cycle rate is for. It's very
effective.

Once upon a time while roaming around at a shooting event on a military
base, I got a chance to try out a couple of select fire military arms
(including a Galil and an FN-FAL) with 3-round burst. It is a huge
advantage over timed fire.

BTW since our gov't in it's wisdom will not let us have such dangerous
toys, the Glaser "safety" slug is a good close approximation. Loses
accuracy at range, but really kicks ass close up.

DSK

On 29 Sep 2004 18:55:33 -0700, (Joe) wrote
this crap:

Because you'll runout of bullets in 1.6 seconds. Get a weapon with a
rate of fire around 350 rounds per minute.

You can set it for select fire. A 3 round burst, single, or fully automatic.
And they do sell extra clips.


It's called a "Magazine."





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:16:00 -0400, something compelled DSK
, to say:

BTW since our gov't in it's wisdom will not let us have such dangerous
toys, the Glaser "safety" slug is a good close approximation. Loses
accuracy at range, but really kicks ass close up.

If I ever get shot, I hope it's with a Glasser. And the FBI
agrees with me.

In article ,
Steve Daniels wrote:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:16:00 -0400, something compelled DSK
, to say:

BTW since our gov't in it's wisdom will not let us have such dangerous
toys, the Glaser "safety" slug is a good close approximation. Loses
accuracy at range, but really kicks ass close up.

If I ever get shot, I hope it's with a Glasser. And the FBI
agrees with me.

I doubt the FBI would shoot you. Perhaps one of your boyfriends, but
Hoover is dead.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

DSK wrote:

Joe wrote:

You can set it for select fire. A 3 round burst, single, or fully
automatic. And they do sell extra clips.


The 3-round burst is what the very high cycle rate is for. It's very
effective.

Once upon a time while roaming around at a shooting event on a military
base, I got a chance to try out a couple of select fire military arms
(including a Galil and an FN-FAL) with 3-round burst. It is a huge
advantage over timed fire.


I never fired a modified FN (i.e. with full auto) but the recoil was
quite large and seemed (to me) to make the semi-auto about as much as
one would want. Could you keep it anywhere near a target on auto? How
did you make it fire a 3 round burst -was it a further modification?

Cheers

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

Joe wrote:

Now that that usless uneffective ban is gone we now need to focus on
getting rid of the ban on fully automatic weapons for law abiding
citizens.

Glock make an awesome fully automatic pistol called the model 18. It
can fire 1200 9mm rounds per min. Comes with a 32 round clip.

Cyclic sounds a bit high for a hand held antipersonnel weapon, 600 rpm
would be more appropriate;
this was one of the good points of the old Thompsons and "grease" guns
(same with Patchets and Stens).
1200 rpm is more suited for anti-aircraft use,.... anyone for hang
gliding?

The Uzi pistol has roughly the same cycle rate, and would empty a 30+ round
magazine in a bit under 2 seconds. Not terribly worthwhile as a defense
piece, except of course in Hollywood where such guns rip off several
thousand rounds before necessitating reloading..

Max

Steve Daniels wrote:
If I ever get shot, I hope it's with a Glasser. And the FBI
agrees with me.

Why would you hope to get shot with anything, much less a specialized
antipersonnel round?

Some years ago, various agencies were using Glaser loads but it wouldn't
surprise me if something better was out there now. Why do you and the
FBI think they're ineffective?

DSK

Nav wrote:
I never fired a modified FN (i.e. with full auto) but the recoil was
quite large and seemed (to me) to make the semi-auto about as much as
one would want. Could you keep it anywhere near a target on auto?

I didn't fire it on full auto from the shoulder. With a bipod it's no
problem.

There are a lot of weapons with worse recoil, and not as good a balance,
as the FN. The roller lock makes the recoil-reload action relatively smooth.

... How
did you make it fire a 3 round burst -was it a further modification?

It's one of the settings for select fire. Pull the trigger, it squirts
out 3. Usually a pretty tight group even from the shoulder, too.

DSK

Maxprop wrote:

"M?

The Uzi pistol has roughly the same cycle rate, and would empty a 30+ round
magazine in a bit under 2 seconds. Not terribly worthwhile as a defense
piece, except of course in Hollywood where such guns rip off several
thousand rounds before necessitating reloading..

Or rebarreling?

Cheers
Marty