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,Who knows, but it's just as reliable as theirs. :-)
LOL..................... And how can you say that? There are no names on that page. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Well, that's better than Bush... driving drunk, in fact, so drunk that he
drove off the road. Well at least he drove his own car! S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
And, the names on the Swift-**** page are all names of liars.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... ,Who knows, but it's just as reliable as theirs. :-) LOL..................... And how can you say that? There are no names on that page. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
I don't think there's any excuse to drive drunk. The person who does should
go to jail. He didn't because of his power friends. Another example of something that should disqualify him from holding public office. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Well, that's better than Bush... driving drunk, in fact, so drunk that he drove off the road. Well at least he drove his own car! S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
So, you're saying that the dead people should vote for someone in an
opposing party???? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On 30 Sep 2004 22:24:20 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz) said: In article , SAIL LOCO wrote: It's the old game of trying to point to bad behavior to justify even worse behavior. Last election in Baltimore City some neighborhoods had a 100% turnout. Democratcs never bitched about that. What are the odds? A friend who was a poll worker told me dead democrats were voting. At least they were voting for the right candidate! That pretty much sums up the do anything it takes to win mentality I was describing earlier. |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Vote for Bush if you think these are good things: . Bush emptied the Social Security trust fund by $507 billion to help offset fiscal irresponsibility and at the same time slash Social Security benefits. . Bush cut Medicare by 17 percent and reduce veterans' benefits and military pay. . Bush eliminate overtime pay for millions of Americans and allowed oil prices to rise by 50 percent. The only thing I disagree with, we subsidise low oil prices now with our military expenditures, we are actually paying more for gas than we realize, we're just not paying it at the pump. The rest is really troubling, juniors inability to entertain the possibility that he's made a mistake probably the most troubling for myself. The deficit is extremely troubling, I read a recent study that claimed even with the most optomistic fiscal projections the US is permanently in the hole, the only way out would involve slashing government spending by some ridiculous amount or raising payroll taxes to confiscatory levels. The aging of the baby-boom generation will cause a historic shift in the United States' fiscal position in the decades beyond CBO's projection period. Over the next 30 years, the number of people ages 65 and older will double, while the number of adults under age 65 will increase by less than 15 percent. In addition to those demographic changes, costs per enrollee in federal health care programs are likely to continue growing much faster than inflation. CBO projects that those pressures will cause federal spending for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined to increase (even under moderate growth assumptions) by more than two-thirds as a share of the economy--from more than 8 percent of GDP in 2004 to over 14 percent in 2030 and almost 18 percent in 2050. Those budgetary pressures will ultimately require choices involving some combination of a substantial reduction in the growth of federal spending, an increase in taxation--possibly to levels unprecedented in the United States--and a dramatic boost in federal borrowing. Responding to that looming situation sooner rather than later, however, can make a significant difference. In particular, policies that encourage economic growth can help by increasing the total amount of resources available for all uses. But economic growth alone is unlikely to bring the nation's longer-term fiscal position into balance--making reform of programs for the elderly or substantial tax increases (or both) necessary. Policymakers face difficult decisions about how best to accomplish that reform, but the sooner such decisions are made, the less disruptive the shifts in policy will be. -The aging of the baby-boom generation will cause a historic shift in the United States' fiscal position in the decades beyond CBO's projection period. Over the next 30 years, the number of people ages 65 and older will double, while the number of adults under age 65 will increase by less than 15 percent. In addition to those demographic changes, costs per enrollee in federal health care programs are likely to continue growing much faster than inflation. CBO projects that those pressures will cause federal spending for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined to increase (even under moderate growth assumptions) by more than two-thirds as a share of the economy--from more than 8 percent of GDP in 2004 to over 14 percent in 2030 and almost 18 percent in 2050. And of course, no one wants to talks about it. John Cairns . Bush gave tax cuts to businesses that sent American jobs overseas, and, in fact, by policy encouraged their departure. . Bush gave away billions of tax dollars in government contracts without competitive bids. . Bush involve this country in a deadly and highly questionable war, and . Bush took a budget surplus and turned it into the worst deficit in the history of the United States, creating a debt in just four years that will take generations to repay. I hope you all enjoyed your $300 check. I hope you think it was worth it. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
Well, I disagree that Kerry is particularly phoney. All politicians have
their moments of phonyism, but I don't think Kerry is that way often. He's certainly a heck of a lot smarter than junior. And, that may be his undoing, which is the really sad part. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com OzOne wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:54:05 -0400, "Vito" scribbled thusly: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote SAIL LOCO wrote: Kerry is a phony. .... Bush is a liar. ..... HEY!!! You're both right! And they're the choice Americans have as their leader...Gawd! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
"Nav" wrote in message Horvath wrote: Except that Kerry was missing for eight years. And no one sent a search party? What are you poeple doing! Hoping Kerry wouldn't be found?? Max |
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400, "Vito" wrote
this crap: Got any proof of this crap? I got into the guard, and there was no waiting list. Where? It doesn't matter where. There was no waiting list. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:49:37 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: I don't think there's any excuse to drive drunk. The person who does should go to jail. He didn't because of his power friends. Another example of something that should disqualify him from holding public office. Tell that to Ted Kennedy. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
All politicians have
their moments of phonyism, but I don't think Kerry is that way often. The guy has been a phony all his life in both his personal and public life. He was a phony in Nam with his "wounds" He was a phony when he came back and said he through his medals away when he actually through away dead vets medals. He's a phony when he says he relates to the working man ......... while he is a leach on wealthy women. Plus how does a Catholic get a 20 year marage that has produced children annuled? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
And, the names on the Swift-**** page are all names of liars.
At least there are names! Plus the odds of getting that many people to lie are pretty slim. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Plus how does a Catholic get a 20 year marage that has
produced children annuled? Loco is such an ASSHOLE. Please explain to everyone how Kerry's personal life effects you. Please also explain why you have interest in his religious beliefs. What an ASSHOLE Loco is! Ganz, Don't even bother anymore with Loco. RB |
They're liars and it's a documented fact.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... And, the names on the Swift-**** page are all names of liars. At least there are names! Plus the odds of getting that many people to lie are pretty slim. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
On this I agree. He should have been thrown in jail. But, one person's
faults do not obsolve someone else's. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:49:37 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: I don't think there's any excuse to drive drunk. The person who does should go to jail. He didn't because of his power friends. Another example of something that should disqualify him from holding public office. Tell that to Ted Kennedy. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Bull****. Just because your boyfriend looked terrible in the first debate,
doesn't mean his opponent is the devil. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... All politicians have their moments of phonyism, but I don't think Kerry is that way often. The guy has been a phony all his life in both his personal and public life. He was a phony in Nam with his "wounds" He was a phony when he came back and said he through his medals away when he actually through away dead vets medals. He's a phony when he says he relates to the working man ......... while he is a leach on wealthy women. Plus how does a Catholic get a 20 year marage that has produced children annuled? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
He's just another right-wing, unthinking wacko. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Plus how does a Catholic get a 20 year marage that has produced children annuled? Loco is such an ASSHOLE. Please explain to everyone how Kerry's personal life effects you. Please also explain why you have interest in his religious beliefs. What an ASSHOLE Loco is! Ganz, Don't even bother anymore with Loco. RB |
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:44:32 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" said: But, one person's faults do not obsolve someone else's. Really? I that why every time anyone suggests your boy might have a fault you try to change the subject to Bush? I suppose you don't want me to correct your English? BTW, Bush is an asshole. |
Ok. To be kind, I'm guessing you're talking about Kerry. Yes, he has faults.
But none of his faults and errors in judgement come even remotely close the flawed logic that lead Bush to do all the damage he's done. Bush, I suppose, has his positives, but few of them qualify him to be president. I suppose you want me to list his positive attributes now? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:44:32 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" said: But, one person's faults do not obsolve someone else's. Really? I that why every time anyone suggests your boy might have a fault you try to change the subject to Bush? |
"Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:44:32 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" said: But, one person's faults do not obsolve someone else's. Really? I that why every time anyone suggests your boy might have a fault you try to change the subject to Bush? Wow! I've read some rubbish on ASA over the years ... but this really takes the biscuit. Bush dodges the draft - and his supporters agrue that Kerry was a coward. Bush says that Saddam supported Bin Laden, and his supporters question Kerry's integrity! Bush says "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy", and his supporters think that he has a brain! Regards Donal -- |
In article ,
Donal wrote: I've read some rubbish on ASA over the years ... but this really takes the biscuit. Bush dodges the draft - and his supporters agrue that Kerry was a coward. Bush says that Saddam supported Bin Laden, and his supporters question Kerry's integrity! Bush says "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy", and his supporters think that he has a brain! Well, it's hard work for Bush (and Dave apparently). We wouldn't want to send mixed messages. Did I miss anything else Bush had to say? -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
"Dave" wrote in message ... And Donal provides yet another example of precisely what I was talking about. Dave, you are sooo wrong. Read my examples again. You, and other rednecks, seem to have a remarkable degree of mental agility. When anybody points out that the cowardly Bush dodged the draft, you respond by saying that Kerry is a coward because he came home after being shot three times!! What on earth is going on inside your head? Do all Republicans feel such contempt for the American soldiers who get wounded in the course of duty? You should show a bit of respect for the young men who are fighting because *you* want them to. They think that they are defending the free world, and you dishonour them by suggesting that one of their forerunners was a coward. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself. Kerry served in Vietnam. Bush didn't. Which one do you think was more cowardly? Regards Donal -- |
In article ,
Donal wrote: You, and other rednecks, seem to have a remarkable degree of mental agility. When anybody points out that the cowardly Bush dodged the draft, you respond by saying that Kerry is a coward because he came home after being shot three times!! Donal, wait a sec here... Bush had three shots. Oh sorry, you were talking about gunshots. I was talking about shots of tequila. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
Kerry served in Vietnam.
Bush didn't. Which one do you think was more cowardly? Forget it, Donal. He'll never get it. Trust me, the support for Bush has more to do with racism and hate than any real politics. It's scary times in the USA. RB |
In article ,
Dave wrote: Again, you prove my point. (I'll refrain from commenting on the name-calling, which I would have thought beneath you). The point was the Kerry folks' habit of trying to change the subject whenever a Kerry fault is mentioned, rather than dealing with the fault itself. One doesn't justify a fault by pointing to someone else's alleged fault, and I don't think you'll find much if anything in the way of posts from me in which I've tried to do so. But feel free to try to show otherwise. You just proved Donal's point Mr. Poodle. You and your buddy Bush/Cheney (they're really one person after all), constantly change the subject and the facts to suit you. They and you are, in my opinion, LIARS! I don't see how I can say it more plainly. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
In article ,
Dave wrote: Well, don't say I didn't tell you so: http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?O...7-c589c01ca7bf On 30 Sep 2004 18:34:13 -0500, Dave said: I look for this election to be characterized by massive vote fraud concentrated on the Dems' end of the spectrum Looks like it's the Republicans again! -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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