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Makes you wonder if he didn't plan it that way from the git-go.
SV "SAIL LOCO" wrote I am a Viet Nam vet. In reply to your other question I don't know of any soldier who was in Viet Nam who was awarded medals but was not injured to the point where he couldn't fight left before his tour was up. Kerry's so called wounds were nothing. Maybe he knew about the 3 medals you get to go home rule and that's why he became "wounded" so many times in a short period of time. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
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Scott Vernon wrote: Makes you wonder if he didn't plan it that way from the git-go. Clinton planned it right after he had Vince Foster killed. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
And, maybe someone higher up or who had political connections got Bush
into the NG ahead of 100s of others. Totally untrue! The only "line" to get in the NG was for inlisted men. Bush was an officer. There was no "line" of officers to jump ahead in. Another piece of false information. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Being a vet does not necessarily qualify you to make the
generalization. Nice try. I didn't make any generalizations. Also, it seems like you're saying that since Kerry availed himself of what he could, that that somehow disqualifies him from being a war hero and patriotic. Why would anyone want to stay in a place like that any longer than possible?? His wounds were supposedly nothing, but somehow you've become the arbiter of what does and what doesn't qualify, over and above what the military seems to think on the subject. . No, all I'm saying is, like many other vets, is that no one went to Nam and left in 4 months unless they had their leg blown off. It is my belief that Kerry went to Viet Nam with a plan in mind for his future. He even told people and it's documented that he wanted to have a "record" like JFK. I believe his plan was to get 3 medals and get the hell out. I believe his plan was to use those medals to make a career in Washington. This is my humble opinion. If you want to talk about being unpatriotic, perhaps you should talk about Bush deciding not to follow a direct order to have a physical, shirking his duties, and being penalized for it by having his service agreement extended by 6 months as punishment. Perhaps wasting millions of dollars of taxpayer money by not doing as he was ordered is ok with you, but it's not ok with me. I think that's pretty unpatriotic.. Please explain how Bush wasted millions of taxpayer's dollars by not doing what he was ordered to do? It's my understanding that he skipped the physical which was to qualify himself for another aircraft. The problem was there was none of the other aircraft in his unit. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Do you think that GWB would have gone to Vietnam if he knew that he could
get sent home so easily? Bush was a fighter pilot in a NG unit that could have been sent to Nam at any time. All this is crap anyway. I enlisted in the Navy because I didn't want to run through rice patties with bullits flying over my head and camp out in tents with no showers. That doesn't mean I avoided anything. I went to Nam. The Navy seemed like the smarter way to go at the time to me. Bush chose another route. Kerry chose Swift boats BEFORE Swift boats did river patrols. When he got to Nam and the Swift boat policy changed he wanted OUT. That's on the record. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
"SAIL LOCO" wrote
Bush was a fighter pilot in a NG unit that could have been sent to Nam ...... Naw, but we should quit beating this dead horse. I have it on good authority that LBJ had the Texas draft quota set so low that kids from "better" families (like Bush) didn't need to dodge the draft - there were plenty of lower class kids to fill Texas' quota. It follows that Junior Bush joined the ANG for another reason, leaving poor Crawford without a village idiot. ...... Kerry chose Swift boats BEFORE Swift boats did river patrols. When he got to Nam and the Swift boat policy changed he wanted OUT. That confirms what a couple buddies who drove PBRs early on told me - that Swift Boat jockies were considered REMFs in their day. |
OzOne wrote scribbled thusly: No, all I'm saying is, like many other vets, is that no one went to Nam and left in 4 months unless they had their leg blown off. Or were fortunate enough to wound themself 3 times in that 4 months. |
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SAIL LOCO wrote: And, maybe someone higher up or who had political connections got Bush into the NG ahead of 100s of others. Totally untrue! The only "line" to get in the NG was for inlisted men. Bush was an officer. There was no "line" of officers to jump ahead in. Another piece of false information. Where do you get this crap?? I know... Karl Rove. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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SAIL LOCO wrote: Being a vet does not necessarily qualify you to make the generalization. Nice try. I didn't make any generalizations. You made tons of them. No, all I'm saying is, like many other vets, is that no one went to Nam and left in 4 months unless they had their leg blown off. It is my belief that This is called a generalization. Kerry went to Viet Nam with a plan in mind for his future. He even told people and it's documented that he wanted to have a "record" like JFK. I believe his plan was to get 3 medals and get the hell out. I believe his plan was to use those medals to make a career in Washington. This is my humble opinion. This is called being able to predict the future. Even GWB can't do that. Please explain how Bush wasted millions of taxpayer's dollars by not doing what he was ordered to do? It's my understanding that he skipped the physical which was to qualify himself for another aircraft. The problem was there was none of the other aircraft in his unit. You're understanding would be wrong. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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