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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

What has Kerry voted for while in office that you admire?

Just about everything if you bother to actually read about his votes.

Ah, then you must be happy that Kerry went out of his way to block The
Vietnam Human Rights Act, an amendment to HR 1950, which would provide for
improving human rights and religious freedom in Vietnam prior to that
country receiving money from, or trade status with, the US?

You mean just like McCain???

"Opponents of the bill, like Kerry and Senator John McCain of Arizona,
insist that the carrot of "engagement" will do more to nurture human
rights in Vietnam than the stick of sanctions."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...vietnam_today/

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

What has Kerry voted for while in office that you admire?

Just about everything if you bother to actually read about his votes.

Ah, then you must be happy that Kerry went out of his way to block The
Vietnam Human Rights Act, an amendment to HR 1950, which would provide for
improving human rights and religious freedom in Vietnam prior to that
country receiving money from, or trade status with, the US?

You mean just like McCain???

"Opponents of the bill, like Kerry and Senator John McCain of Arizona,
insist that the carrot of "engagement" will do more to nurture human
rights in Vietnam than the stick of sanctions."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...vietnam_today/

Oops! I was wrong! It wasn't just Kerry and McCain! Bummer for the
facts, isn't it Max.

"Kerry said the bill was counterproductive and would only worsen human
rights. Republican colleagues who served in the war agreed, including
Sens. John McCain of Arizona -- a former POW -- and Chuck Hagel of
Nebraska."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...04/8981994.htm

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
And ever wonder who approved them??

IIRC, they were all approved stateside, in some obscure room in the
Pentagon. As long as they appeared proper, no one here questioned them.
The Pentagon had to rely on field commanders for veracity. Kerry's first PH
was for a band-aid scratch. His commanding officer refused to sign off on a
PH application for him because of the nature of the wound, which was minor
AND self-inflicted. PHs are only awarded when the victim is injured by
enemy action. Kerry launched a grenade incorrectly and a piece of the
rebounding shrapnel hit him. Bottom line: he did an end run around his
commander to get the application sent in. And it's exactly THAT application
plus the ones for the remaining PHs and the Silver and Bronze Stars that
Kerry won't sign off on releasing. I think it's because the PH applications
are in Kerry's own handwriting. Or perhaps signed by himself.

Totally wrong! He's put our troops in harms way for no good reason and
got 1000 of them killed, not to mention getting the rest of the world
to hate us! Great job. Sure he's been consistent... consistently
wrong.

Not according to Kerry. Or was that yesterday? I can't keep up.

demonstrating this. So we must rely on his fitness to be the CiC from
his
previous military history. What bothers me most is that he maligned ALL
the
US troops in Vietnam, calling them "war criminals" while aiding and
abetting
the enemy (meeting with Madame Bihn, the titular leader of the PRG, or
Viet
Cong, in Paris) while still a member of the Naval Reserves, which is
truly a
war crime and treasonous. He is unfit for command, IMO, to quote the
title
of the book.

Yes, Kerry has demonstrated his leadership abilities both in war and
in Congress. He never maligned "ALL" of the troops in VN.

He said "most" of the troops in Vietnam were war criminals.

If you
actually listen to what he said, you'd know that. You're being quite
sloppy and fast and loose with the facts.

Most Vietnam vets would agree with me. Kerry cast a blanket accusation over
the entire US force in Vietnam by saying "most" were guilty of atrocities.

Max

In article t,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
And ever wonder who approved them??

IIRC, they were all approved stateside, in some obscure room in the
are in Kerry's own handwriting. Or perhaps signed by himself.

Where in the world do you get this crap???

Totally wrong! He's put our troops in harms way for no good reason and
got 1000 of them killed, not to mention getting the rest of the world
to hate us! Great job. Sure he's been consistent... consistently
wrong.

Not according to Kerry. Or was that yesterday? I can't keep up.

Huh? This is according to just about every non-biases source!

We know you can't keep up! :-)

He said "most" of the troops in Vietnam were war criminals.

No he didn't.

Most Vietnam vets would agree with me. Kerry cast a blanket accusation over
the entire US force in Vietnam by saying "most" were guilty of atrocities.

Doubtful. Did you take a poll?

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Not his commander. He practically threw Kerry out of his office when Kerry
requested his PHs for minor, self-inflicted wounds. The suspicion is that
Kerry made the applications himself. And neither you nor I can prove
otherwise until he executes a Form 180 to release his records from the Navy.
So why won't he do so? What does he have to hide?

I believe you're delusional. You need to stop listen to O'Reilly and
company.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 04:26:10 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote this crap:

Not his commander. He practically threw Kerry out of his office when Kerry
requested his PHs for minor, self-inflicted wounds. The suspicion is that
Kerry made the applications himself. And neither you nor I can prove
otherwise until he executes a Form 180 to release his records from the Navy.
So why won't he do so? What does he have to hide?

I believe I know.

You know about his AWOL?

Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:06:02 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote this crap:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

What has Kerry voted for while in office that you admire?

Just about everything if you bother to actually read about his votes.

Ah, then you must be happy that Kerry went out of his way to block The
Vietnam Human Rights Act, an amendment to HR 1950, which would provide for
improving human rights and religious freedom in Vietnam prior to that
country receiving money from, or trade status with, the US?

Max

I think Jon-boy wants the $1.50 a gallon gas tax.

Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
And ever wonder who approved them??

IIRC, they were all approved stateside, in some obscure room in the
Pentagon. As long as they appeared proper, no one here questioned
them.
The Pentagon had to rely on field commanders for veracity. Kerry's
first PH
was for a band-aid scratch. His commanding officer refused to sign
off on a
PH application for him because of the nature of the wound, which was
minor
AND self-inflicted. PHs are only awarded when the victim is injured
by
enemy action. Kerry launched a grenade incorrectly and a piece of
the
rebounding shrapnel hit him. Bottom line: he did an end run around
his
commander to get the application sent in. And it's exactly THAT
application
plus the ones for the remaining PHs and the Silver and Bronze Stars
that
Kerry won't sign off on releasing. I think it's because the PH
applications
are in Kerry's own handwriting. Or perhaps signed by himself.

Sounds like a typical politician to me.

SV