BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   ASA (https://www.boatbanter.com/asa/)
-   -   OT assault weapons ban coming to an end (https://www.boatbanter.com/asa/22508-ot-assault-weapons-ban-coming-end.html)

Vito September 22nd 04 05:25 PM

Abstract:
Analyzing county level data for the entire United States from 1977 to 2000,
we find annual reductions in murder rates between 1.5 and 2.3 percent for
each additional year that a right-to-carry law is in effect. For the first
five years that such a law is in effect, the total benefit from reduced
crimes usually ranges between about $2 billion and $3 billion per year

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...ract_id=372361



Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:03 PM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
I'm not qualified to answer for Bush, but if I had to take a stab at
it, I'd say that Bush didn't show up because he feared having his
alcohol and drug problems offically documented.


You should have quit after the first part of your sentence.


I was being complete and accurate.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:04 PM

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 21 Sep 2004 17:09:39 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:
If you're talking about whomever asked about the three PHs, I'm sure
there's a better explanation


OK, so it's not that you don't want to answer the question he asked. It's
that you can't answer the question.


And neither can you. So what's your point Mr. Poodle? (besides the one
on the top of your head)



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:05 PM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Ever wonder why Bush refuses to answer a simple question about why he
failed to show up for his physical and why he disobeyed direct orders
to do so? Apparently not.


Since the document in question that supposedly verifies your contention is
most likely bogus, I guess your question is moot.


That's a pretty huge leap in logic, given that both the White House
and Bush's commander's secretary say the facts are accurate.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:07 PM

In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:
Except that his failure to take a physical and his suspension from
flight status is undisputed.


His record shows that he fulfilled his obligation (accumulated the necessary
number of points) every year of his term of duty, including the year in
question. He was turning to his political career at that point and chose
not to fly. In fact, he soon after requested an early discharge, which was
granted, to pursue his political ambitions.


His records also show that he failed to show up for his physical, and
he's never said why. The records also show that he was given
preferential treatment by those higher up the food chain.

And before you get your panties in a wad, Kerry also requested an early
discharge for the same reason. It also was granted.


After he was wounded three times, which is why it was granted.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:08 PM

In article ,
Dave wrote:
I think Jonathan's comment reflects the fact that even though the documents
are bogus, they have acquired the status of holy writ among true believers
on his side of the political fence, and no mere facts will shake their
convictions on that score.


The facts in the documents are not in dispute, only the documents
themselves. There's a world of difference between facts and truth.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 22nd 04 08:09 PM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Really? Do look me up if that's the case. I don't live in SF, but my
boat is in Sausalito. I'd be happy to buy you and your wife a beer.

I'll do you one better and buy you and your significant other dinner at
Angelo's in North Beach.


As long as we can pick up the desserts... :-)


IIRC there used to be a gelato place across the street.


Happy to buy... send me email if you're serious. I promise not
to bring up GWB or Kerry. :-)

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Maxprop September 22nd 04 10:29 PM


"felton" wrote in message

Oh, so you are one of those who believe he was in the position to
choose not to fly, and even choose not to show up. Well, obviously
that was the case, in *his* case, anyway.


How, pray tell, did Bush accumulate the necessary points to fulfill his
requirement that year if he "didn't show up?"

Max



Maxprop September 22nd 04 10:32 PM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

After he was wounded three times, which is why it was granted.


Better learn the facts before dumping BS on this NG, Jon. Kerry was sent
home from combat duty in Vietnam because of the three PH rule. He served in
the military for some time after that before being discharged per his own
request to pursue his political career. The three PHs had nothing to do
with his discharge.

Max



Maxprop September 22nd 04 11:00 PM


"DSK" wrote in message

We probably would not have
been friends anyway.


You've finally said something with veracity.

Max




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com