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Bobsprit September 10th 04 07:37 PM

OK Salty, to stamp Scotts statement as a serious lie,

In only said it was a "lie" which it was.

RB

Bobsprit September 10th 04 07:42 PM

Here ya go, Tom.

http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm

Scotty claimed Force 6 sustained which would have meant larger gusts. Never
happened, except very briefly. NOT sustained. Scotty MIGHT have seen force 4.
Maybe.

RB

Thom Stewart September 10th 04 09:43 PM

Yeah Nutsy,

Sure looks like you are both talking about Beaufort 5 (18 to 24) on my
Dwyer Wind Scale. Now, if you are using Sea condition to sail by, Tell
me how you can tell the difference of a Force 6 white cap with a Force 5
white cap within 3 to 4 knots without a lie as you call it?

AND; This whole post begs to question the ability of the vessels to
handle these condition or the ability of the sailors on the helm.
Siedlemann over C&C or Nutsy over Potti?

Damn, Wish the new Harkens Furler would get here so I can sail rather
than troll :^)

Ole Thom


Bobsprit September 10th 04 11:09 PM

Tell
me how you can tell the difference of a Force 6 white cap with a Force 5
white cap within 3 to 4 knots without a lie as you call it?

Tom, you miss the point. If Scotty didn't know the real windspeed, why guess?
He didn't estimate or backpedal until he was caught, then he claimed he had no
instruments. Still worse, I know how differently my boat behaves in 25 knots
vs. 18. I guess you're also saying that Scotty doesn't.
And that wouldn't surprise me at all.

RB

Bobsprit September 10th 04 11:11 PM

Damn, Wish the new Harkens Furler would get here so I can sail rather
than troll :^)


Cheer up. Suzanne and I went to the club today, but she's still pretty weak.
It'll be a few more days before we can sail. Thomas seemed to enjoy the fresh
air all the same and the owner of the club bought him some nice clothes.
I hope to go for a sail on Monday.

RB



Bobsprit September 10th 04 11:12 PM

This whole post begs to question the ability of the vessels to
handle these condition or the ability of the sailors on the helm.
Siedlemann over C&C or Nutsy over Potti?


As I pointed out, I can certainly ID 25 knots over 18. And even Potti's crappy
Siedlemann can handle 25 knots.

RB

Donal September 11th 04 12:38 AM


wrote in message
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Most of us believe that you have a little one, though! A very little one.


Bill is short for Willy!!


dammit, I'm good



Regards


Donal
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Scott Vernon September 11th 04 03:03 PM

"Jeff Morris" wrote

In Scotty's case, estimating 25 when it was 18 to 22 with gusts to

25 isn't too
bad.


Thanks Jeff, I know you and the rest of the sailors here realize that
, without wind instruments, we will generally err on the plus side of
wind strength. Even though Ponys' graph showed that I was damn close,
I see no need to justify myself to a non-sailor like bob.
Anyway, the point was that it was windy, and I had a great sail.

Scotty





Scott Vernon September 11th 04 03:04 PM

You think Hunters are better than Benetoes?
S

wrote




Bear in mind that Donald also thinks Beneteaus are "good"

BB




Bobsprit September 11th 04 03:57 PM

You think Hunters are better than Benetoes?

Over the last few years Hunter has done much to improve fit and finish. Compare
and see, the Hunters are now clearly better than the Beneteaus in quality.

RB


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