"katysails" wrote in message

Our ketch was heeled 45 degrees over in
her slip under bare poles.

Yes...I remember that one vividly...for awhile O thought your ketch was
going to become a part of my rigging....

Nah. Your Kirie was heeled over 45 degrees in her own slip as well. That
would have been an awesome sight to see from, say, the restaurant--all those
boats heeling 45 degrees in the marina.

Max

"DSK" wrote in message

Bart Senior wrote:
I don't think I've met a Southerner that was stupid and
mean. I have to admit as a group, they rate about the
best in the US.

Thanks. I am a Southerner and am proud of it. Cultural differences are
being erased in this country, partly because of mass media and partly
because of everybody moving around so much.

There certainly are mean-spirited and/or stupid and/or dishonest
Sotherners, just like among any other people... we try to weed them out
early though Some cultural anthropologists studying the matter have
identified a number of characteristics of Southerners, the main two are
generosity and sense of honor. This doesn't necessarily mean that
Southerners are more honest or have better families, just that we get
PO'd if you insult them!

Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with
southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and
away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever
encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in
Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the
counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to
brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before.

Max

"Joe" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message

"katysails" wrote in message

Give me a break....us damn Yankees secure our furling after every
use....we
have storms with 70 mph straight line winds that shred gennies right
off
the
furler if they're not tied up....those are just plain dumb people...

According to the weather service, Katy, those you were referring to were
roughly 100mph straight line winds. Our ketch was heeled 45 degrees
over in
her slip under bare poles.

Max

Damn...Must be a nimble Ketch. At 110 knots we get a 10-15 degree heel
max.


It wasn't particularly *Nimble*, rather a Far East Yachts Mariner 31 ketch.
It drew 3'11", and with heavy spruce spars she was quite tender. In a beam
seaway she'd roll enough to make an astronaut ill.

Max

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:50:04 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote this crap:



Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with
southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and
away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever
encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in
Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the
counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to
brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before.


How much was she charging?






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Maxprop wrote:
Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with
southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and
away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever
encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in
Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the
counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to
brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before.

I'm impressed that you knew you were in Bayboro. That place hasn't
changed much, except for the increased thru traffic. Most outsiders
driving between New Bern and Oriental see the intervening distance as 35
miles of partially paved swamp.

BTW you went right by our boat. Should have stopped in.

Funny you should mention New York. It's been really wierd the last few
times I've gone there, people have been friendly and helpful (although
why do they have those gawd-awful accents?). Makes me suspicious!

DSK

katysails wrote:
Waffle Houses are great...exce[t for the cholesterol....

??? What's the problem with cholesterol, just because some people can't
handle it, doesn't mean it should be outlawed for everybody!


.... and are there really people that drink unsweet tea????yech.....

Agreed.

DSK

"katysails" wrote:

....and are there really
people that drink unsweet tea????yech.....

It's a regional thing, Katy. In the midwest when you ask for iced tea, it
automatically comes unsweetned. When I roamed the eastern parts of the
country (like Georgia), the tea is pre-sweetned.

Another interesting thing about different regions, is when you ask for a hot
dog with "everything on it" in Georgia, etc. it comes with cole slaw! I had
never heard of putting slaw on a hot dog until that experience.

LP

rudeness
nah
it ain't what its about--
and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was
to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc
yeah-welcome to nyc
you haven't been here yet.

i've lived in both and both have their points --just different
aint good or bad

oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.

its ok: stay "down" the if you don't like the city, we don't need ya.

gf.



"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:50:04 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with
southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far
and
away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever
encountered.

This may be an area where perceptions are changing. A month or so ago I
spoke to a client from Texas who had just come back from a few days in New
York. He commented on how friendly and helpful he found New Yorkers on
this
trip. This is a guy who has been to the City many times over the years. He
felt that at this point New Yorkers' reputations for rudeness was no
longer
deserved.

Not sure I agree with him, but there you have it FWIW.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

"Michael Moore...may win an Oscar for the kind of work that got Stephen
Glass, Jayson Blair, and Jack Kelly fired"--NPR's Scott Simon

gonefishiing wrote:
rudeness
nah
it ain't what its about--
and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was
to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc
yeah-welcome to nyc
you haven't been here yet.

There is not enough money in the world to get me to live long-term in
Noo Yawk Sitty. OTOH I have stayed there a few months at a time on
several occasions, working and playing tourist.


oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.

Really?

Last time I looked, there were bigger skinhead groups in the major metro
areas (definitely including NYC which has several KKK chapters) than in
rural areas.

its ok: stay "down" the if you don't like the city, we don't need ya.

Last time I was there, I noticed a tremendous lack of productive
farmland in downtown Noo Yawk. What do ya'll eat that isn't brought in
from elsewhere? And where does your drinking water come from?

"Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern
America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities
they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are
completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be
made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it."
--P. J. O'Rourke

OTOH it seems that a lot of New Yorkers have pulled their heads out of
their orifices and noticed that there is something worthwhile about the
rest of the world, and the people too. They seem to be making an
impression, too.

DSK

"katysails" wrote in message
...

Dunno about truck stops, but most Waffle Houses do!

DSK

Waffle Houses are great...exce[t for the cholesterol....and are
there really
people that drink unsweet tea????yech.....

some people order unsweetened so they can add their own sugar /
Sweet-n-low / Splenda / Equal. Some places down south over sweeten
their tea,

Scotty