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FamilySailor July 23rd 04 01:38 AM

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Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye" post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"



Jeff Morris July 23rd 04 02:10 AM

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I don't bother to post while traveling, But I have a few friends who maintain
"medium speed" access (about 110 KBaud) using Sprint cell phone connections. I
don't know if that deal is still available, but $10 a month gives them unlimited
connect time.

WiFi can be used over limited areas - much of the FL Keys are "wired" for WiFi.
And most "hi-roller" marinas, especially resort oriented places, have phone
access in the slips. And most marinas have phone jacks in the office and allow
you plug in to check e-mail, etc.

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye" post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"





Scout July 23rd 04 11:28 AM

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110K bps? no kidding? That seems fast for a cell phone. My modem is only
56K. My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards). I might have
to look into Sprint - I use AT&T wireless now, and when I asked about using
my cell phone to connect to the Internet they looked at me like I have two
heads. My third head was quite insulted.
Scout


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I don't bother to post while traveling, But I have a few friends who

maintain
"medium speed" access (about 110 KBaud) using Sprint cell phone

connections. I
don't know if that deal is still available, but $10 a month gives them

unlimited
connect time.

WiFi can be used over limited areas - much of the FL Keys are "wired" for

WiFi.
And most "hi-roller" marinas, especially resort oriented places, have

phone
access in the slips. And most marinas have phone jacks in the office and

allow
you plug in to check e-mail, etc.

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye"

post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no

port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while

cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"







katysails July 23rd 04 11:43 AM

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My third head was quite insulted.
Scout

tsk tsk tsk
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Scout July 23rd 04 11:49 AM

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Is that one tsk for each of us?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
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My third head was quite insulted.
Scout

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Vito July 23rd 04 12:56 PM

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Some, but hardly all or even most stay out continuously. Even the long-haul
sailors spend weeks or months pierside refitting, recovering and
replenishing funds. Others live aboard but seldom go out for more than a
day or two. Then there are dudes like me who have a year or so to go to
retirement and still live ashore - offering ample opportunity to harass
people who's invisible friend tells them what's right and wrong. (c:

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye" post

I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no port.




Jeff Morris July 23rd 04 12:57 PM

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Yes, the nominal rate is 140 kBaud, but in practice its a bit slower. Its the
system intended for browsing on the cell phone itself, but it turns out with the
right cable you get it on your laptop. My friend is skeptical the deal will
continue, especially if a lot of people catch on. He thinks the deal will not
be offered with phones that can be cabled.



"Scout" wrote in message
...
110K bps? no kidding? That seems fast for a cell phone. My modem is only
56K. My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards). I might have
to look into Sprint - I use AT&T wireless now, and when I asked about using
my cell phone to connect to the Internet they looked at me like I have two
heads. My third head was quite insulted.
Scout


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I don't bother to post while traveling, But I have a few friends who

maintain
"medium speed" access (about 110 KBaud) using Sprint cell phone

connections. I
don't know if that deal is still available, but $10 a month gives them

unlimited
connect time.

WiFi can be used over limited areas - much of the FL Keys are "wired" for

WiFi.
And most "hi-roller" marinas, especially resort oriented places, have

phone
access in the slips. And most marinas have phone jacks in the office and

allow
you plug in to check e-mail, etc.

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye"

post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no

port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while

cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"









Lady Sailor July 23rd 04 04:44 PM

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We don't have any special technology on the boat to send emails or use
the internet while in Mexico. When we want to go online we use
internet cafe's, they are everywhere in Mexico. Back here in the U.S.
they are harder to find. Right now we are staying in a hotel that has
wireless. Some of our friends use Sail Mail while cruising but that's
just text email, no attachments and no internet. I personally like
not having the distraction of internet on the boat.

Lady Sailor


FamilySailor wrote:
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye" post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"


FamilySailor July 23rd 04 04:54 PM

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I personally like not having the distraction of internet on the boat.

Lady Sailor


Probably the wiser choice



Scott Vernon July 23rd 04 06:27 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.


That's nothing, junior, we used to email each other using waxed string
between 2 cans.

SV


Scout July 23rd 04 07:19 PM

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actually, I'm very Spartan-like on my boat. I don't have much in the way of
technology (a gps, a compass, and a cell phone). Of course, I don't roam too
far from home.
Scout


"Lady Sailor" wrote in message
om...
We don't have any special technology on the boat to send emails or use
the internet while in Mexico. When we want to go online we use
internet cafe's, they are everywhere in Mexico. Back here in the U.S.
they are harder to find. Right now we are staying in a hotel that has
wireless. Some of our friends use Sail Mail while cruising but that's
just text email, no attachments and no internet. I personally like
not having the distraction of internet on the boat.

Lady Sailor


FamilySailor wrote:
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye"

post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no

port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while

cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"




Scout July 23rd 04 07:20 PM

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As you say it, I stand corrected; I too was at 300 bps at one time. I recall
waiting patiently for lines of text to wrap on my screen . . .
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Scout

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?




Jonathan Ganz July 23rd 04 07:42 PM

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Cuts down on the roaming charges....

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"Scout" wrote in message
...
actually, I'm very Spartan-like on my boat. I don't have much in the way

of
technology (a gps, a compass, and a cell phone). Of course, I don't roam

too
far from home.
Scout


"Lady Sailor" wrote in message
om...
We don't have any special technology on the boat to send emails or use
the internet while in Mexico. When we want to go online we use
internet cafe's, they are everywhere in Mexico. Back here in the U.S.
they are harder to find. Right now we are staying in a hotel that has
wireless. Some of our friends use Sail Mail while cruising but that's
just text email, no attachments and no internet. I personally like
not having the distraction of internet on the boat.

Lady Sailor


FamilySailor wrote:
Okay, I may be stupid (that is relative), but under the "Where be ye"

post I
was under the impression, some sailors here are cruising and have no

port.
Is it possible to read the posts and reply to sailing.asa while

cruising. I
thought you had to be online to access news groups. If there is some

new
technology, please educate me. If so I gotta get connected!

Sea Yawl,
John "26 Again"






Jeff Morris July 23rd 04 09:09 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.


You had one of them new fangled gadgets - my first was 134.5 baud. Later I was
downgraded to 110.



Jonathan Ganz July 23rd 04 09:15 PM

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I would think he'd be amazed at the new technology and use
it. Don't you? .. at least the GPS and compass.

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:19:42 GMT, "Scout"
wrote:

actually, I'm very Spartan-like on my boat. I don't have much in the way

of
technology (a gps, a compass, and a cell phone).


Do you realize how hysterically funny this would be to Joshua Slocum?

BB




krj July 23rd 04 10:13 PM

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My first modem was a Hayes in an Apple II. 75, 150 & 300 bps
krj

Jeff Morris wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:


My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.



You had one of them new fangled gadgets - my first was 134.5 baud. Later I was
downgraded to 110.




Scout July 24th 04 12:04 AM

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Yep, now that you mention it, it is pretty funny! I just meant, of course,
compared to the floating technology labs I've heard described here in asa!
Scout

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:19:42 GMT, "Scout"
wrote:

actually, I'm very Spartan-like on my boat. I don't have much in the way

of
technology (a gps, a compass, and a cell phone).


Do you realize how hysterically funny this would be to Joshua Slocum?

BB




Michael July 24th 04 12:08 AM

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Kaypro with 65K and 300 baud modem. Hard drive was separate and as big as a
shoebox.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well that figures.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0500, Dave wrote this
crap:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout"

said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).

Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of

300.


The first time I connected to the internet with my OWN computer, was a
Commodore VIC-20, at 300 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!






Scout July 24th 04 12:08 AM

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remember having to maintain minimum upload to download ratios?
what a drag that was.
Scout


"krj" wrote in message
. ..
My first modem was a Hayes in an Apple II. 75, 150 & 300 bps
krj

Jeff Morris wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:


My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).

Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of

300.



You had one of them new fangled gadgets - my first was 134.5 baud.

Later I was
downgraded to 110.






Michael July 24th 04 12:11 AM

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Not only the price of thestamps. Check out the increase in carpal tunnel.
In previous days we kept our hands, fingers, wrists at an 'ergonomically
required' angleso as to be able to punch the heavy non-electric keys. With
the lighter touch of the selectrics and the very light touch of the
computer keyboard most learn to type with wrists cocked at an awkward angle
which results in carpal t. The price paid today is far more than just the
postage stamps.

M.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scout,

Old Josh would scoff at anything with an electrical power supply. We
forget, in our new world of information, that in Josh's world the dry
cell battery was a pure PITA.

Katy talks about no computer and using a IBM electric and snail mail. I
remember sending out the monthly bill payments by check, envelope and
three cent stamps. All for a cost of less than 50 cents!

We've come a long way but we do pay a terrible monetry price.

What we accept as normal today would definitely be scoff at by past
generations.
I'm not sure scoff is the right word. Pity comes to mind,

Ole Thom




Michael July 24th 04 12:18 AM

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At my present job site the motto is 'Christopher Columbus eat your heart
out!" Think about it. Nothing but a sort of compass and a backstaff. No
idea of longitude and never mind what's on the weather channel. Today we
rely heavily on the satellite and computerized weather systems in doing
route planning. Want a good ride just download the 500 mb chart and stay 500
miles or so south of the heavy 564mb line. No weather fax? Just tune in the
right radio broadcast. On the faster ships we get warning way in advance
and just move out of the way. Slower vessels such as our sailing yachts
still get plenty of detailed warning compared to 'way back when." But you
rR\eally have to respect those early Irish, Norse, and other sailing folk
who relied on nothing more than skill and memorized stories to cross oceans.
Respect them for venturing offshore but . ......trade in my sextant for a
backstaff? No way!

M.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Why do you think he would scoff at a GPS? Cell phone for sure, but
seems to me he would think the GPS is a practical device.

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:15:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

I would think he'd be amazed at the new technology and use
it. Don't you? .. at least the GPS and compass.


He'd laugh at the notion that having a GPS and Cell phone on board might

be
"spartan".

And I'm pretty sure Slocum had a compass - or several.

BB






katysails July 24th 04 01:53 AM

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I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....

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gonefishiing July 24th 04 03:21 AM

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by his book he had a timepiece
gf.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:15:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

I would think he'd be amazed at the new technology and use
it. Don't you? .. at least the GPS and compass.


He'd laugh at the notion that having a GPS and Cell phone on board might

be
"spartan".

And I'm pretty sure Slocum had a compass - or several.

BB




Michael July 24th 04 04:43 AM

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First high capacity hard drive our store sold was to a programmer. His
business ponied up a bit over a $1,000 for it. How much capacity? 80MB.
That's it. Myfirst computer, the Kaypro had 64K RAM and two DSDD 360k FD.
One more. Our store was the first in the state to sell laser printers for
under $1,000 and our first full bed b&w scanner was purchased wholesale to
us for about the same amount. And the original Kaypro with daisy wheel for
the nice stuff and dot matrix wide carraige ran $2,000 for everything. That
was in 1983, just 21 years ago. We had the first BB in our store on a 20mb
HD. Not much but it got folks started. Phone company wanted to charge us
an extra line and by the minute. But they were up for franchise renewal,
had Sprint to compete with and I was on the city council. . . . . . .

Now my wris****ch has more computing power than that first Kaypro ....

What's next insight? A badge or somethingsimilar. You touch it and say,
"Computer!"


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Yeh, I had similar. The first modem I bought was $450 and was good
up to 1200 baud. I thought it was a fantastic deal and quite cutting
edge at the time. (I had been using the expensive crap at work.) My
first HD was a whopping 17 megs. That also cost about $500. Nothing
but trouble. It was external since I couldn't fit in the box, but the

cables
were a couple of inches too long and it was always flaking due to
signal degradation.

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"Michael" wrote in message
...
Kaypro with 65K and 300 baud modem. Hard drive was separate and as big

as
a
shoebox.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well that figures.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0500, Dave wrote this
crap:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout"

said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).

Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed

of
300.


The first time I connected to the internet with my OWN computer, was

a
Commodore VIC-20, at 300 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!









Jonathan Ganz July 24th 04 06:44 AM

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Why do you think he would scoff at a GPS? Cell phone for sure, but
seems to me he would think the GPS is a practical device.

--
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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:15:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

I would think he'd be amazed at the new technology and use
it. Don't you? .. at least the GPS and compass.


He'd laugh at the notion that having a GPS and Cell phone on board might

be
"spartan".

And I'm pretty sure Slocum had a compass - or several.

BB




Scout July 24th 04 10:06 AM

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well, when I was a kid, it was sooo cold that we had to thaw our words out
before we could hear them!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....

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Scout July 24th 04 10:12 AM

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why would he scoff at a cell phone even? It's pretty handy for all but long
passages.
Scout

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Why do you think he would scoff at a GPS? Cell phone for sure, but
seems to me he would think the GPS is a practical device.

--
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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:15:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

I would think he'd be amazed at the new technology and use
it. Don't you? .. at least the GPS and compass.


He'd laugh at the notion that having a GPS and Cell phone on board might

be
"spartan".

And I'm pretty sure Slocum had a compass - or several.

BB






Michael July 24th 04 10:33 AM

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Add a decade or so . . ..

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You have to touch it?? You have to say it? I would prefer to just
think it. :-)

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"Michael" wrote in message
...
First high capacity hard drive our store sold was to a programmer. His
business ponied up a bit over a $1,000 for it. How much capacity?

80MB.
That's it. Myfirst computer, the Kaypro had 64K RAM and two DSDD 360k

FD.
One more. Our store was the first in the state to sell laser printers

for
under $1,000 and our first full bed b&w scanner was purchased wholesale

to
us for about the same amount. And the original Kaypro with daisy wheel

for
the nice stuff and dot matrix wide carraige ran $2,000 for everything.

That
was in 1983, just 21 years ago. We had the first BB in our store on a

20mb
HD. Not much but it got folks started. Phone company wanted to charge

us
an extra line and by the minute. But they were up for franchise

renewal,
had Sprint to compete with and I was on the city council. . . . . . .

Now my wris****ch has more computing power than that first Kaypro ....

What's next insight? A badge or somethingsimilar. You touch it and

say,
"Computer!"


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Yeh, I had similar. The first modem I bought was $450 and was good
up to 1200 baud. I thought it was a fantastic deal and quite cutting
edge at the time. (I had been using the expensive crap at work.) My
first HD was a whopping 17 megs. That also cost about $500. Nothing
but trouble. It was external since I couldn't fit in the box, but the

cables
were a couple of inches too long and it was always flaking due to
signal degradation.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Kaypro with 65K and 300 baud modem. Hard drive was separate and as

big
as
a
shoebox.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well that figures.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0500, Dave wrote

this
crap:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout"


said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).

Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art

speed
of
300.


The first time I connected to the internet with my OWN computer,

was
a
Commodore VIC-20, at 300 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!













Scout July 24th 04 12:30 PM

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all too true - of course, Thor Heyerdahl would laugh even harder at both of
us!
Scout

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:44:04 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

Why do you think he would scoff at a GPS? Cell phone for sure, but
seems to me he would think the GPS is a practical device.


I don't think he would scoff at a GPS or a Cell phone if he were alive

today.
But to hear a "modern" sailor call these items spartan, compared to what

he had
available would make him bust a gut for sure.

BB




katysails July 24th 04 01:23 PM

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Thor Heyerdahl would laugh even harder at both of
us!
Scout

Ah, good old Thor...he died a while back....I read all his books when I was
a kid and he inspired us to make the telephone pole sailing barge that took
3 days to sink....
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Scout July 24th 04 01:42 PM

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you just reminded me of a childhood event. When I was 15, two of my friends
and I carried a Snark sailboat 5 miles to a Lake. The walk wasn't the hard
part, it was our forearms that ached from holding the boat. We rigged it,
set it in the water, got in, and the wind immediately bent the aluminum mast
in half. Bummer.
Scout.

"katysails" wrote in message
...

Thor Heyerdahl would laugh even harder at both of
us!
Scout

Ah, good old Thor...he died a while back....I read all his books when I

was
a kid and he inspired us to make the telephone pole sailing barge that

took
3 days to sink....
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Horvath July 24th 04 02:28 PM

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On 23 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0500, Dave wrote this
crap:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.



The first time I connected to the internet with my OWN computer, was a
Commodore VIC-20, at 300 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath July 24th 04 02:31 PM

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:09:47 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.


You had one of them new fangled gadgets - my first was 134.5 baud. Later I was
downgraded to 110.



I had to translate from binary meself, at about 4 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath July 24th 04 02:34 PM

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:53:23 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....



Lucky *******. I couldn't afford such technology. I had to use
something called a pencil, or if I could afford it, I bought ink for
my quill.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Scott Vernon July 24th 04 02:44 PM

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"Horvath" wrote

I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....



Lucky *******. I couldn't afford such technology. I had to use
something called a pencil, or if I could afford it, I bought ink for
my quill.


Oh brother. I had to use a Mastodon bone on a cave wall. There, that should
end this thread.

SV



Scout July 24th 04 02:50 PM

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you had a cave?
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Horvath" wrote

I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to

write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....



Lucky *******. I couldn't afford such technology. I had to use
something called a pencil, or if I could afford it, I bought ink for
my quill.


Oh brother. I had to use a Mastodon bone on a cave wall. There, that

should
end this thread.

SV





Thom Stewart July 24th 04 04:35 PM

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Scout,

Old Josh would scoff at anything with an electrical power supply. We
forget, in our new world of information, that in Josh's world the dry
cell battery was a pure PITA.

Katy talks about no computer and using a IBM electric and snail mail. I
remember sending out the monthly bill payments by check, envelope and
three cent stamps. All for a cost of less than 50 cents!

We've come a long way but we do pay a terrible monetry price.

What we accept as normal today would definitely be scoff at by past
generations.
I'm not sure scoff is the right word. Pity comes to mind,

Ole Thom


Jonathan Ganz July 24th 04 05:39 PM

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What's a cave?

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"Scout" wrote in message
...
you had a cave?
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Horvath" wrote

I remember not even having a computer and using an IBM Selectric to

write
mail for the snail to deliver. at - .00015 baud....


Lucky *******. I couldn't afford such technology. I had to use
something called a pencil, or if I could afford it, I bought ink for
my quill.


Oh brother. I had to use a Mastodon bone on a cave wall. There, that

should
end this thread.

SV







Jonathan Ganz July 24th 04 05:40 PM

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I had to translate from binary meself, at about 4 baud.

Translation: Horass was pretty stupid.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Jonathan Ganz July 24th 04 05:40 PM

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Well that figures.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0500, Dave wrote this
crap:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:28:21 GMT, "Scout" said:

My first connection was just 1200 bps (bulletin boards).


Ah, such a child. My first was at the then state of the art speed of 300.



The first time I connected to the internet with my OWN computer, was a
Commodore VIC-20, at 300 baud.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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