Terrorist training camps with a commercial
jet......................................

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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The WTC had nothing to do with Iraq. That's a fact. Even Bush
isn't so blind to claim otherwise, but he was manipulative enough
to allow people to think it.

Bush and company LIED to the American people about the
reasons for war in Iraq. Bush never bothered to get involved
in the hard decisions that lead up to it, preferring to be a
cowboy, with a lets-getum mentality. He certainly wasn't
involved in the lead up to 9/11. He was on vacation for a
full month a month before it. This was after just a few months
in office. He's taken more vacation than any other president
in history.

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
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Invading Iraq threatened more US lives than firing missiles at US
fighter
pilots. How many US servicemen died as a result of Saddam's
missiles?
How many died as a result of the invasion?


Let me see.... How many were in the Twin towers???
Didn't Russia tell us they had intelligence that Iraq was planning a
terrorist attack in the US also? I guess we should just ignore it, huh?
I
guess Bush made up and manipulated the intelligence the previous
administration got too, huh? Of course if Bush acts on intelligent he is
manipulating it and a warmonger, if he doesn't he is not protecting the
American people and he is to blame for people dieing. It looks like he
is
doing the responsible thing and acting on the intelligence to protect
the
country (Much more than anyone else has done, by far), despite the ones
who
want to just act like the world is a beautiful place and ignore the
dangers
and smell the flowers in their make-believe little world. Maybe if we
get
on
our knees and cry, "Please don't hurt us Mr. Terrorist!" I think the
current
administration does what needs to be done, despite the slanting and
attacking by the liberal press. And the reason Bush 41 called off the
attack
was because the liberals were crying that is was horrible to pursue
them!
Bush 43 did not letting that same bunch sidetrack him from what had to
be
done.

Such complete right-wing bull****. That's all you can come up
with? What an idiot!

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Terrorist training camps with a commercial
jet......................................

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
The WTC had nothing to do with Iraq. That's a fact. Even Bush
isn't so blind to claim otherwise, but he was manipulative enough
to allow people to think it.

Bush and company LIED to the American people about the
reasons for war in Iraq. Bush never bothered to get involved
in the hard decisions that lead up to it, preferring to be a
cowboy, with a lets-getum mentality. He certainly wasn't
involved in the lead up to 9/11. He was on vacation for a
full month a month before it. This was after just a few months
in office. He's taken more vacation than any other president
in history.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Invading Iraq threatened more US lives than firing missiles at US
fighter
pilots. How many US servicemen died as a result of Saddam's
missiles?
How many died as a result of the invasion?


Let me see.... How many were in the Twin towers???
Didn't Russia tell us they had intelligence that Iraq was planning a
terrorist attack in the US also? I guess we should just ignore it,
huh?
I
guess Bush made up and manipulated the intelligence the previous
administration got too, huh? Of course if Bush acts on intelligent he
is
manipulating it and a warmonger, if he doesn't he is not protecting
the
American people and he is to blame for people dieing. It looks like he
is
doing the responsible thing and acting on the intelligence to protect
the
country (Much more than anyone else has done, by far), despite the
ones
who
want to just act like the world is a beautiful place and ignore the
dangers
and smell the flowers in their make-believe little world. Maybe if we
get
on
our knees and cry, "Please don't hurt us Mr. Terrorist!" I think the
current
administration does what needs to be done, despite the slanting and
attacking by the liberal press. And the reason Bush 41 called off the
attack
was because the liberals were crying that is was horrible to pursue
them!
Bush 43 did not letting that same bunch sidetrack him from what had to
be
done.

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:26:39 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Such complete right-wing bull****. That's all you can come up
with? What an idiot!


He was talking about Salman Pak, you dumbass.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled, "Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:26:39 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Such complete right-wing bull****. That's all you can come up
with? What an idiot!


He was talking about Salman Pak, you dumbass.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:32:10 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled, "Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

So now you're claiming that the Pentagon is lying.
You're quite a freak.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:32:10 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled,
"Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist
training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi
Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:32:04 -0400, Horvath wrote:


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. It goes on to say,
"Committee staff asked both CIA and DIA analysts whether any al-Qaida
operatives or other sources have confirmed Salman Pak training
allegations, and the unanimous response was that none have reported
knowledge of any training."

Sorry, but another terrorist link bites the dust. The full Senate report,
an interesting read, is available at:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:20:07 -0400, thunder
wrote this crap:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:32:04 -0400, Horvath wrote:


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. It goes on to say,

What a crock of ****. Where did you make up this bull****?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"thunder" wrote

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. ....

That seems reasonable. After all Saddam feared radical Muslims like Bin
Laden. They hated him for runnung a more or less secular state instead of
acting like the taliban. That makes any Al Qaeda - Iraq connection
extremely unlikely.

The most probable explaination for the war I've heard is that outgoing
Clinton staff switched the "N" and "Q" keys in the SW in all White House
computers, causing the village idiot to attack Iraq instead of Iran. Not
that it's very likely, just more plausible than anything Bush supporters
have come up with.

What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm



I can help you on the confusion, I have been there myself. The Liberal's
plan of defense against facts that are not in their favor (most facts fall
into this category) is to say it is not true and say it is fabricated by the
Bush administration, then throw in the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money"
or something to change the focus from the facts. It is a play for emotion
not reason. Reason is one of the things Liberals fear most. When that does
not work, then they yell it louder and have all their friends yell it also.
Next they have the New York Times put it on the front page. If that don't
work then they put it on protest signs along with anti-Bush phrases adding
the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money." But the facts are still the facts,
no matter how many time you yell "It ain't so!"