We need to get out of Iraq as soon as possible. Declare victory,
leave or stay in the background. Let the Iraqis handle it. Bush
is at best incompetent, at worst a liar... sort of like his friend
Ken Lay.

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
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Good point, but Clinton didn't lie about why we were going to Bosnia.
Bush lied. That's the criminal aspect.

I really don't think he lied....

I agree. Saying things that are not true is not necessarily lying unless
one KNOWS that what (s)he is about to say is false. Bush's statements
about
WMDs fall into that catagory. He either knew Saddam had no meaningful
amount of WMDs or he didn't. If he knew, then he is a liar, and should be
replaced. If he didn't, as I suspect, then he is far to ignorant and
stupid
to remain President. Which is it?

But that's water over the dam. Question is what to do now we know better.
Do we stay in and bleed our own country and our military white like LBJ
did
in 'nam or do we cut our losses and leave Iraq to become like Iran.