Subject: DR practice
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 07:02 Pacific Standard Time
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it
only involves speed,time, and heading,

shen, that *IS* the definition of ded reckoning. what you describe
"improved"
DR is in fact pilotage, a whole different breed of cat.



No jaxass. That is YOUR limited definition of DR.
What I described is NOT piloting, as piloting involves fixes.
In truth, the two can be and frequently are, used in conjunction, but that's
beyond you -you're still at the "definition" stage.

Shen

pilotAGE, not pilotING. there is a difference, dood.

What I described is NOT piloting,

Subject: DR practice
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 14:22 Pacific Standard Time
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pilotAGE, not pilotING. there is a difference, dood.

What I described is NOT piloting,


ROFL Maybe you'd best say what you're talking about then since you're soo hung
up on these definitions.
Obviously you aren't discussing my pay scale........ then again......

Shen

shen, nobody pays you anything to DR anything. knock it off.

pilotAGE, not pilotING. there is a difference, dood.

What I described is NOT piloting,


ROFL Maybe you'd best say what you're talking about then since you're soo
hung
up on these definitions.
Obviously you aren't discussing my pay scale........ then again......

Shen

shen, nobody pays you anything to DR anything. knock it off.

LOL obviously, you don't know all the definitions for "pilotage"

Shen

dood, if you are taking fixes on marker buoys, bottom depth, sounds from shore,
smells from onshore restaurants, THEN you are usaging pilotAGE, **not** deduced
reckoning.

this is easy stuff, shen. pay attention.

What I described is NOT piloting, as piloting involves fixes.

ubject: DR practice
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 14:24 Pacific Standard Time
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dood, if you are taking fixes on marker buoys, bottom depth, sounds from
shore,
smells from onshore restaurants, THEN you are usaging pilotAGE, **not**
deduced
reckoning.

this is easy stuff, shen. pay attention.

A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.
Using soundings, sounds from shore or smells from onshore restaurants is part
of DR, as they don't give you a fix, they just aid in narrowing the error in
your DR.
Course, there are times when you can use soundings to get a fix, but as per
usual, that's beyond your understanding.

Your right, this is easy stuff, but obviously beyond your knowledge and
understanding as you're still trying to comprehend the various terms.

Shen

A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.

no it isn't. you are piloting the boat, but using pilotage for navigation.
there is a hell of a difference.

As per usual, your lack of experience and knowledge of the subject is
showing.
You need to learn more than one definition for the same woids.
Pilotage, is the fee paid a pilot for piloting your boat.
Only a rank amateur with nothing but knowledge gained from reading and
none from doing would come up with some of the junk you do. The terms
are interchangeable, and the fact you can't and don't understand that
tells us how little you know.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.


no it isn't. you are piloting the boat, but using pilotage for navigation.
there is a hell of a difference.

Pilotage, is the fee paid a pilot for piloting your boat.

the use of the term in that way is not germaine to this discusssion. I stand
by my statement.