I just haven't had time
 

Don't worry yourself. Imagine how worse it would be if they were.



"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.

Kerry doesn't care about what happens here.

So John Kerry shows up big time at this fund-raiser last night.
It is full of vulgarities, full of insults, full of obscenities. It is
liberals in raw form, and Kerry is out there later talking about
what "great American values" were on parade at this thing.

KERRY: Every performer tonight in their own way -- either
verbally or through their music, through their lyrics -- have
conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country. You've
come here tonight to invest in that, and we're going to leave
here tonight determined to 'let America be America again.'

Let me translate:
Liberal values = vulgarity, insults, and obscentities

If our heart and soul is typified by Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy
Crystal, then I'd be ashamed to be an American. But it's not
it's only a disease called liberal extremism.

I just haven't had time
 

Not evil, just cheap with their own money, and free
with everyone elses. And ready to sell out America.

Conservatives are Proud to be American's
Liberals are Ashamed to be American's

Jonathan Ganz wrote

Neither had Bu****, right up until 9/11. But, now he's real
interested, especially if it gets him reelected. I think we
should all blame Kerry and Edwards.. clearly they're
EVIL.

"Bart Senior" wrote

KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.

Kerry doesn't care about what happens here.

So John Kerry shows up big time at this fund-raiser last night.
It is full of vulgarities, full of insults, full of obscenities. It is
liberals in raw form, and Kerry is out there later talking about
what "great American values" were on parade at this thing.

KERRY: Every performer tonight in their own way -- either
verbally or through their music, through their lyrics -- have
conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country. You've
come here tonight to invest in that, and we're going to leave
here tonight determined to 'let America be America again.'

Let me translate:
Liberal values = vulgarity, insults, and obscentities

If our heart and soul is typified by Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy
Crystal, then I'd be ashamed to be an American. But it's not
it's only a disease called liberal extremism.

I just haven't had time
 

Neither had Bu****, right up until 9/11. But, now he's real
interested, especially if it gets him reelected. I think we
should all blame Kerry and Edwards.. clearly they're
EVIL.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.

Kerry doesn't care about what happens here.

So John Kerry shows up big time at this fund-raiser last night.
It is full of vulgarities, full of insults, full of obscenities. It is
liberals in raw form, and Kerry is out there later talking about
what "great American values" were on parade at this thing.

KERRY: Every performer tonight in their own way -- either
verbally or through their music, through their lyrics -- have
conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country. You've
come here tonight to invest in that, and we're going to leave
here tonight determined to 'let America be America again.'

Let me translate:
Liberal values = vulgarity, insults, and obscentities

If our heart and soul is typified by Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy
Crystal, then I'd be ashamed to be an American. But it's not
it's only a disease called liberal extremism.

I just haven't had time
 

Many of us in PA had mixed feelings about Ridge getting his new job.
On one hand, we got rid of him, on the other hand, we didn't.
Scout

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.

Kerry doesn't care about what happens here.

So John Kerry shows up big time at this fund-raiser last night.
It is full of vulgarities, full of insults, full of obscenities. It is
liberals in raw form, and Kerry is out there later talking about
what "great American values" were on parade at this thing.

KERRY: Every performer tonight in their own way -- either
verbally or through their music, through their lyrics -- have
conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country. You've
come here tonight to invest in that, and we're going to leave
here tonight determined to 'let America be America again.'

Let me translate:
Liberal values = vulgarity, insults, and obscentities

If our heart and soul is typified by Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy
Crystal, then I'd be ashamed to be an American. But it's not
it's only a disease called liberal extremism.

I just haven't had time
 

Bart,
I saw that interview, I believe Kerry did two things well he
1. he answered honestly and in a straightforward manner
2. he let the American people know how he feels about scare tactics
one could reread the Q&A this way:
King: do you think Ridge's report is a political ploy?
Kerry: yes, I don't have time for it.

I don't know who I'm voting for at this point, I'm learning more everyday
and hope to make an educated decision before November. It's difficult when
so much of the world spins reality for their own purposes. For me, the world
isn't as black and white as the Liberalism-Conservatism debate that goes on
here; I want to know more about Kerry. Quite frankly, I'm ambivalent
regarding Bush's performance. I'll vote for the one who can convince me he
is the best man. I don't give a damn what party he's with.
Scout


"Bart Senior" wrote
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.
{snip}

I just haven't had time
 

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.
The conservatives are proud because they're unthinking and
unfeeling. Bu**** has already sold out American. I don't think
there's much Kerry can do until he's elected.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
Not evil, just cheap with their own money, and free
with everyone elses. And ready to sell out America.

Conservatives are Proud to be American's
Liberals are Ashamed to be American's

Jonathan Ganz wrote

Neither had Bu****, right up until 9/11. But, now he's real
interested, especially if it gets him reelected. I think we
should all blame Kerry and Edwards.. clearly they're
EVIL.

"Bart Senior" wrote

KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States. Didn't increase the -- you see any
politics in this? What's your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven't been briefed yet, Larry.
They have offered to brief me. I just haven't had time.

Kerry doesn't care about what happens here.

So John Kerry shows up big time at this fund-raiser last night.
It is full of vulgarities, full of insults, full of obscenities. It is
liberals in raw form, and Kerry is out there later talking about
what "great American values" were on parade at this thing.

KERRY: Every performer tonight in their own way -- either
verbally or through their music, through their lyrics -- have
conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country. You've
come here tonight to invest in that, and we're going to leave
here tonight determined to 'let America be America again.'

Let me translate:
Liberal values = vulgarity, insults, and obscentities

If our heart and soul is typified by Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy
Crystal, then I'd be ashamed to be an American. But it's not
it's only a disease called liberal extremism.

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States.


Hasn't Al Qaeda been mortally weakened by the defeat of Saddam?


Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

Regards


Donal
--

I just haven't had time
 

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 09:59:42 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

I'm ashamed that you are, too.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:34:31 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States.


Hasn't Al Qaeda been mortally weakened by the defeat of Saddam?


Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

I certainly feel safer.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

. . . and damned ashamed of it, right?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

wrote in message


I hear that you have a new Governor, because the previous one, who was a
darling
"golden boy" of the Bush Administration, had to resign to reduce the
number of
years he is going to have to serve in prison for being a crook.

The new Govenor spent Friday firing a bunch of his crooked cronies that he
had
appointed to high posts where they could steal the most money. Yeah, those
Republicans are really fine folks.

Tossing stones whilst residing in a glass residence is risky, BB. Or are
you so naive as to be under the impression that the dems are NOT as corrupt
as the GOP?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

"Donal" wrote in message


Hasn't Al Qaeda been mortally weakened by the defeat of Saddam?

Al qaeda has been weakened, but only because they've been kept busy
shoveling ignorant, uneducated dupes (suicide bombers) and money into Iraq
to torment the US and the new Iraqi ruling council. You might have noticed
that they've not accomplished anything in the USA since 9/11, beyond the
ongoing frustration and expense incurred by our gummint.

Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

Would you feel safer if Saddam were still in power? If so, why would you
feel less safe now?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

What have you done for your country?

Ever served in the Armed Forces?

How many letters of appreciation have you received for
community involvement?

Patriotism is displayed by actions not declaimation.

Reacting with anger makes you more like Whoopi Goldberg,
and bin Laden.

Jonathan Ganz wrote

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

"Joe" wrote

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

I'm glad Rowland resigned. Most republicans felt
the same way.

wrote

I hear that you have a new Governor, because the previous one, who was a
darling
"golden boy" of the Bush Administration, had to resign to reduce the
number of
years he is going to have to serve in prison for being a crook.

The new Govenor spent Friday firing a bunch of his crooked cronies that he
had
appointed to high posts where they could steal the most money. Yeah, those
Republicans are really fine folks.

BB

I just haven't had time
 

Currently, yes. We have an asshole and liar in the White House. He's
tarnished our image around the world. After 9/11, people had mostly
empathy and sympathy, now they hate us. He's abrogating our Civil
Rights at home. He needs to get out of town on a permanent basis.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

. . . and damned ashamed of it, right?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

Horass is also ashamed of his own homosexuality, but I wonder
if his boyfriend is ashamed.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 09:59:42 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

I'm ashamed that you are, too.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

Certainly some are, just as there are Republicans who are not corrupt.
It's just hard to find them on either side.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

wrote in message


I hear that you have a new Governor, because the previous one, who was a
darling
"golden boy" of the Bush Administration, had to resign to reduce the
number of
years he is going to have to serve in prison for being a crook.

The new Govenor spent Friday firing a bunch of his crooked cronies that
he
had
appointed to high posts where they could steal the most money. Yeah,
those
Republicans are really fine folks.

Tossing stones whilst residing in a glass residence is risky, BB. Or are
you so naive as to be under the impression that the dems are NOT as
corrupt
as the GOP?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

Is this before or after you get a blow job from your boyfriend?

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:34:31 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today
about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the
United States.


Hasn't Al Qaeda been mortally weakened by the defeat of Saddam?


Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

I certainly feel safer.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

Actually, they've accomplished a lot of their goal. They've forced us
to reduce our Civil Rights, they've forced us to have to remove our
shoes before we get on a plane, they've effectively put targets on
the backs of every American living or travelling abroad. I'd say we're
a lot less safe. Saddam had little to do with it either way.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Donal" wrote in message


Hasn't Al Qaeda been mortally weakened by the defeat of Saddam?

Al qaeda has been weakened, but only because they've been kept busy
shoveling ignorant, uneducated dupes (suicide bombers) and money into Iraq
to torment the US and the new Iraqi ruling council. You might have
noticed
that they've not accomplished anything in the USA since 9/11, beyond the
ongoing frustration and expense incurred by our gummint.

Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

Would you feel safer if Saddam were still in power? If so, why would you
feel less safe now?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

Actually, it's none of your business. Patriotism isn't about service. It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
What have you done for your country?

Ever served in the Armed Forces?

How many letters of appreciation have you received for
community involvement?

Patriotism is displayed by actions not declaimation.

Reacting with anger makes you more like Whoopi Goldberg,
and bin Laden.

Jonathan Ganz wrote

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

"Joe" wrote

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

No your not.

You are ashamed to be an American.

I proud to be an American.

I might be ashamed of americans like you, moore, and others but Im
always proud to be an American.

BTW Katy getting the Ivory Soap ready for you.

joe


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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
...

Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

I certainly feel safer.

So why do we need so much more security at airports????



Regards


Donal
--

I just haven't had time
 

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:08:26 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Actually, it's none of your business. Patriotism isn't about service. It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Nope. It's true.

Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

Nope. You ARE unpatriotic. You said you were ashamed to be an
American. That makes you unpatriotic by your own words.


I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

You can't. They can't.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Actually, it's none of your business.

In other words No he did not serve or do anything to protect our
country.


Patriotism isn't about service. It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Bull****, Military service is about standing up and saying you will
give all if needed for your country. And after all Love is above all a
gift of ones self


Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

Yes it is if they are indeed un-patriotic.


I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

You by being ashamed to be an American have proved you are
un-patriotic.

the guys at Princeton universty define patrotic as:

1. patriotic (vs. unpatriotic), loyal -- (inspired by love for your
country)

Get a clue!

Joe
Never ashamed to be called an American



--
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
What have you done for your country?

Ever served in the Armed Forces?

How many letters of appreciation have you received for
community involvement?

Patriotism is displayed by actions not declaimation.

Reacting with anger makes you more like Whoopi Goldberg,
and bin Laden.

Jonathan Ganz wrote

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

"Joe" wrote

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

You are full of **** and tits.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:08:26 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Actually, it's none of your business. Patriotism isn't about service.
It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I
was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Nope. It's true.

Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

Nope. You ARE unpatriotic. You said you were ashamed to be an
American. That makes you unpatriotic by your own words.


I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

You can't. They can't.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I just haven't had time
 

You're a ****ing idiot. You're also illiterate.

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

No your not.

You are ashamed to be an American.

I proud to be an American.

I might be ashamed of americans like you, moore, and others but Im
always proud to be an American.

BTW Katy getting the Ivory Soap ready for you.

joe


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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Certainly some are, just as there are Republicans who are not corrupt.
It's just hard to find them on either side.

(clutching his chest and experiencing labored breathing) My gawd, Jon, you
and I agree on something. (I'm betting the San Andreas Fault is about to
let go.)

Max

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Actually, they've accomplished a lot of their goal. They've forced us
to reduce our Civil Rights,

Wrong. The Bush administration did this. It was not necessary, and not an
appropriate response to terrorism.

they've forced us to have to remove our
shoes before we get on a plane,

If this really bothers you, Jon, you should seek counseling.

they've effectively put targets on
the backs of every American living or travelling abroad.

In theory, perhaps. In reality, highly unlikely. I'm unaware of any
Americans traveling abroad (excluding Iraq) who've been victims or close
calls of terrorism.

I'd say we're
a lot less safe. Saddam had little to do with it either way.

That was my point. How did ousting Saddam make us less safe?

Max

I just haven't had time
 

You get a clue... you have no clue! Now you're citing liberal academics??
What is the world coming to???

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Actually, it's none of your business.

In other words No he did not serve or do anything to protect our
country.


Patriotism isn't about service. It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the
community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I
was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Bull****, Military service is about standing up and saying you will
give all if needed for your country. And after all Love is above all a
gift of ones self


Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

Yes it is if they are indeed un-patriotic.


I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

You by being ashamed to be an American have proved you are
un-patriotic.

the guys at Princeton universty define patrotic as:

1. patriotic (vs. unpatriotic), loyal -- (inspired by love for your
country)

Get a clue!

Joe
Never ashamed to be called an American



--
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www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
What have you done for your country?

Ever served in the Armed Forces?

How many letters of appreciation have you received for
community involvement?

Patriotism is displayed by actions not declaimation.

Reacting with anger makes you more like Whoopi Goldberg,
and bin Laden.

Jonathan Ganz wrote

**** you. I'm more of an American than you'll ever be.

"Joe" wrote

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

In the current state of affairs, I'm ashamed to be an American.

Then get the Hell Out and do not let the door hit you in the ass!

Joe

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Actually, it's none of your business. Patriotism isn't about service. It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

If you truly believe the above, Jon, I feel genuinely sorry for you. You've
lived here all you life (I'm assuming) and are clueless as to what
constitutes patriotism. I'd suggest a redux of basic American history, with
emphasis on such names as Patrick Henry, George Washington, and such.

Max

I just haven't had time
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Currently, yes. We have an asshole and liar in the White House. He's
tarnished our image around the world.

No, no. Clinton left office in Jan. 2001.

Max

I just haven't had time
 

"Donal" wrote in message

"Horvath" wrote in message

Surely, your victory in Iraq means that the world is now safe????

I certainly feel safer.

So why do we need so much more security at airports????

Hmmm. I'm sorry you Irish need more since the Iraq war, but we "Murcans"
haven't increased ours since it was scaled up following 9/11.

Max

I just haven't had time
 

Bart Senior wrote:
Not evil, just cheap with their own money, and free
with everyone elses. And ready to sell out America.

Bart, I think you should be a bit more careful what you say.

The madatory financial data released by George W. Bush shows that he
donates 0.7% of his income to charity... including church charities and
in-kind donations. That's well below the "skinflint" level in my book.
Dick Cheney donates 0.000% of his million$ in income.



Conservatives are Proud to be American's
Liberals are Ashamed to be American's

You seem to be swollen with Bush/Cheney propaganda. It's bad for you.

There many real patriots on both sides of the fence. For one thing, most
of the Founding Fathers described themselves as "Liberal." For another,
in the 2000 election the margin of military votes for Bush/Cheney was
aBout 4%. This time it's expected to swing by more than that the other way.

DSK

I just haven't had time
 

I was talking about the current asshole in the WH (not Laura).

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Currently, yes. We have an asshole and liar in the White House. He's
tarnished our image around the world.

No, no. Clinton left office in Jan. 2001.

Max

I just haven't had time
 

No need to feel sorry for me. I remember Joe McCarthy and he was
no friend of patriotism.

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Actually, it's none of your business. Patriotism isn't about service.
It's
about believing and supporting the US Constitution and the values
that it espouses. Just because one does or doesn't serve in the military
isn't good enough to be patriotic. Just because one serves the
community,
isn't enough to be considered patriotic. It's easy to claim that... "I
was
in the military, therefore, I'm patriotic." That's a load of crap.

Calling someone unamerican is most definitely not patriotic, as it goes
against everything that we hold as values.

I don't have to prove my patriotism, and I don't ask anyone else to
either.

If you truly believe the above, Jon, I feel genuinely sorry for you.
You've
lived here all you life (I'm assuming) and are clueless as to what
constitutes patriotism. I'd suggest a redux of basic American history,
with
emphasis on such names as Patrick Henry, George Washington, and such.

Max

I just haven't had time
 

Sh*t.... I wondered what that rumbling was... Oh wait...

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Certainly some are, just as there are Republicans who are not corrupt.
It's just hard to find them on either side.

(clutching his chest and experiencing labored breathing) My gawd, Jon,
you
and I agree on something. (I'm betting the San Andreas Fault is about to
let go.)

Max

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You're right about the Bu**** administration.

I don't need counseling, I need more foot powder.

It was the attack on Iraq that makes us less safe. Getting
rid of Saddam was a good thing and might have gone well,
but Bu**** screwed it up.

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Actually, they've accomplished a lot of their goal. They've forced us
to reduce our Civil Rights,

Wrong. The Bush administration did this. It was not necessary, and not
an
appropriate response to terrorism.

they've forced us to have to remove our
shoes before we get on a plane,

If this really bothers you, Jon, you should seek counseling.

they've effectively put targets on
the backs of every American living or travelling abroad.

In theory, perhaps. In reality, highly unlikely. I'm unaware of any
Americans traveling abroad (excluding Iraq) who've been victims or close
calls of terrorism.

I'd say we're
a lot less safe. Saddam had little to do with it either way.

That was my point. How did ousting Saddam make us less safe?

Max