Are you really this stupid??

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:01:12 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

It's your and his argument not mine.

I'm not making any argument at all. Just pointing out the total illogic of
your post on the topic.

Maybe you need to stick to name-calling.
Dave
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CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger, he had no involvement in politics.



Dave wrote:
Untrue. ..... He
supported Roosevelt in 1932 and was rewarded by an appointment as the first
Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission (1934-35). (A good choice
since he knew every crooked trick in the book.) He was appointed ambassador
to Britain in 1938.

You're right. I forgot about him being appointed ambassador. Wasn't he
also vocally pro-Nazi?

Anyway, that doesn't change the ridiculousness of the right-wing smears
against JFK. There is plenty that he actually did wrong, without making
up stuff.

DSK

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I believe there is a restriction on law enforcement that prevents them
from keeping the records of purchases for more than a brief period.
I don't know the reference. It's not important enough for me to look
it up.

You're right. The law forbids FBI and BATF from diverting tax dollars away
from law enforcement to keep redundent records that the same law already
requires gun dealers to keep. Why spend $millions to keep duplicate and
triplicate records? Because catching criminals is a far more dangerous and
demanding pastime than keeping records and filming congressmen with
prostitutes.

So the answer is yes?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:39:06 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Are you really this stupid??

Not much of an answer to my pointing out the total lack of logic in your
post. I'm tempted to respond in kind with an appropriate insult. But I
won't.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

"N1EE" wrote
Kerry wanted to be a war hero for the same reason as Joe and John Kennedy
did--ONLY to help his
political career.

You are absolutely 100% correct. However, this proves that Kerry has far
more intellegence and foresight than Bush, who couldn't plan beyond his next
drunken frat party at the same age. What's really sad is that there's
nobody better running and that they wouldn't appeal to the Homer Simpson
electorate if there were. Doh well ,,,,,

"DSK" wrote

Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger, he had no involvement in politics.

You just flunked K-history 101. Joe used his mob profits to buy the
ambassadorship to England where we got REALLY rich in the black markets
diverting war materials to european criminals. Remember how many soldiers
lacked warm cloths and blankets, even froze to death, thanks to Papa Joe?

If you really think that John F. Kennedy *only* got invovled in WW2 in
order to further his political future, you are really nuts. Why would he
risk his life repeatedly to save men under his command? To win one vote
at a time?

You're right! JFK (like the shrub) had no intention of risking his life.
Papa Joe bought him a nice safe billet but he got tied up with a female spy
so his superiors shipped him off to the Pacific where he blundered into the
path of a Jap can. I'm not sure he ever "risked his life repeatedly to
save men under his command". He was an even better swimmer than his kid
brother Teddy who swam back to the mainland abandoning Mary Jo K to drown,
right?

Second that!!!

Dave wrote:

Anyway, that doesn't change the ridiculousness of the right-wing smears
against JFK. There is plenty that he actually did wrong, without making
up stuff.

Dave has trouble with that... possibly ADD, but I'm not a physician.

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On 14 Jul 2004 12:13:18 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:41:03 GMT, said:

you would have realized that Doug
was clueless, and didn't know there was a Joe Jr. either.

Utterly irrelevant. Doug was clearly talking about Joe Sr. I simply
corrected his statement that that Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger who had
had
no involvement in politics. You may, if you like, have an orgasm over his
missing the fact that the initial reference was to Joe Jr. rather than
Joe
Sr., but it was really of no concern to me.



Dave, the thread was concerning an accusation that some people served
in the armed forces in order to accumulate medals for use in later
life when running for political office. Joe Kennedy Sr. was not part
of the discussion. Doug's post was a complete non-sequitar. If you had
paid better attention, you would not have replied to him at all.

BB

Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I believe there is a restriction on law enforcement that prevents them
from keeping the records of purchases for more than a brief period.
I don't know the reference. It's not important enough for me to look
it up.

You're right. The law forbids FBI and BATF from diverting tax dollars
away
from law enforcement to keep redundent records that the same law already
requires gun dealers to keep. Why spend $millions to keep duplicate and
triplicate records? Because catching criminals is a far more dangerous and
demanding pastime than keeping records and filming congressmen with
prostitutes.

Whoohoo... Dave is a *bit* upset.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:28:58 GMT, said:

If you had
paid better attention, you would not have replied to him at all.

Nonsense. He overlooked Joe Sr.'s involvement in politics. I pointed out
the
oversight. I'll make my own choices as to which posts to reply to, thank
you
very much.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?