COP OUT? cop out!!?? listen you no good piece of crap......You're the one
copping out. You keep changing the question with each answer you get. YOU
asked a question...I gave you a correct answer. Now, bugger off if you
can't handle the truth!

''practically moored?'' WTF does that mean?

SV



"Blorgad" wrote in message
...
Scott,

That is a cop out. Sure if you let out enough line, then your boat will
behave as though not moored. You have just described one of the standard
ways of sailing away from a mooring once you let yourself off of it.
However, the question is could you do any such thing while actually and




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Blorgad" wrote ...
Let's pretend that you knew what you were doing.

Sure, I do that all the time.

How would you use your
sails to turn a normal fractional-rig sloop aft to wind while on a
mooring?

I would pay out more line, say 600' or so, then backwind the jib till
the
bow starts turning downwind, set the jib and steer downwind. Easy, eh?

SV

I'm sorry, but I think that letting out enough line to go out for a nice
sail, really clearly does not qualify as being moored. So, by practically
moored, I mean that the bow is actually being held by the mooring and the
boat is not drifting downwind on 100 fathoms of line. Also not a real
option is attaching helicopter blades and flying up and around. Nor is
communicating with whales via arcane symbols on the spinnaker that tell them
to push the stern to wind.

And is there really any need to resort to name calling, just because
somebody thinks you're being slippery in your answer?


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
COP OUT? cop out!!?? listen you no good piece of crap......You're the
one
copping out. You keep changing the question with each answer you get. YOU
asked a question...I gave you a correct answer. Now, bugger off if you
can't handle the truth!

''practically moored?'' WTF does that mean?

SV



"Blorgad" wrote in message
...
Scott,

That is a cop out. Sure if you let out enough line, then your boat will
behave as though not moored. You have just described one of the
standard
ways of sailing away from a mooring once you let yourself off of it.
However, the question is could you do any such thing while actually and




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Blorgad" wrote ...
Let's pretend that you knew what you were doing.

Sure, I do that all the time.

How would you use your
sails to turn a normal fractional-rig sloop aft to wind while on a
mooring?

I would pay out more line, say 600' or so, then backwind the jib till
the
bow starts turning downwind, set the jib and steer downwind. Easy, eh?

SV

"Blorgad" wrote ...
I'm sorry, but I think that letting out enough line to go out for a nice
sail, really clearly does not qualify as being moored.

you said nothing of 'qualifiers' when you posed your question.

So, by practically
moored, I mean that the bow is actually being held by the mooring and the
boat is not drifting downwind on 100 fathoms of line. Also not a real
option is attaching helicopter blades and flying up and around. Nor is
communicating with whales via arcane symbols on the spinnaker that tell
them
to push the stern to wind.

So, a really big fan behing the boat is out, too?



And is there really any need to resort to name calling, just because
somebody thinks you're being slippery in your answer?

Yes, there is. this is Usenet, get used to it ya dumb Canuck hoser.

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Hey Scott,

Sorry to be unclear. This is not one of the quizzes that get posted in this
group, there are no points for finding holes in the test. I was really just
looking for input on whether or not a normally moored, normal fractional
rigged sailboat could be turned aft to wind by its sails, particularly a
spinnaker. So, yes, a big fan is out, too.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Blorgad" wrote ...
I'm sorry, but I think that letting out enough line to go out for a nice
sail, really clearly does not qualify as being moored.

you said nothing of 'qualifiers' when you posed your question.

So, by practically
moored, I mean that the bow is actually being held by the mooring and
the
boat is not drifting downwind on 100 fathoms of line. Also not a real
option is attaching helicopter blades and flying up and around. Nor is
communicating with whales via arcane symbols on the spinnaker that tell
them
to push the stern to wind.

So, a really big fan behing the boat is out, too?



And is there really any need to resort to name calling, just because
somebody thinks you're being slippery in your answer?

Yes, there is. this is Usenet, get used to it ya dumb Canuck hoser.

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Ask Jax, he can sail up wind under bare poles.

Scotty

"Blorgad" wrote in message
...
Hey Scott,

Sorry to be unclear. This is not one of the quizzes that get posted in
this
group, there are no points for finding holes in the test. I was really
just
looking for input on whether or not a normally moored, normal fractional
rigged sailboat could be turned aft to wind by its sails, particularly a
spinnaker. So, yes, a big fan is out, too.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Blorgad" wrote ...
I'm sorry, but I think that letting out enough line to go out for a
nice
sail, really clearly does not qualify as being moored.

you said nothing of 'qualifiers' when you posed your question.

So, by practically
moored, I mean that the bow is actually being held by the mooring and
the
boat is not drifting downwind on 100 fathoms of line. Also not a real
option is attaching helicopter blades and flying up and around. Nor
is
communicating with whales via arcane symbols on the spinnaker that
tell
them
to push the stern to wind.

So, a really big fan behing the boat is out, too?



And is there really any need to resort to name calling, just because
somebody thinks you're being slippery in your answer?

Yes, there is. this is Usenet, get used to it ya dumb Canuck hoser.

--
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Well, he claims to sail a hunter. He's proud of it. What can you say...

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Horvath" wrote in message
| I have found that it's easier to grab a mooring ball by backing up to
| it, with someone standing on the swim platform.

Bwahahahahahahaaaaaa..... that alone says volumes about your lack of
skills
Horvat.

CM

Katy,

The mooring balls at Ayala Cove don't have lines attached. I've never
yet seen anyone go to the mooring ball first. Everyone goes to the bow,
even on boats with a lot of freeboard. Actually, I take that back. I've
seen plenty of powerboats do it. Says a lot about Horass doesn't it.

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Horvatrh,
I think most people assume that if you're mooring on a mooring ball, the
mooring belongs to you and it has established lines already attached....if
you have to attach lines, I see why you back up to it but that is
certainly
not the usual method of catching a can....

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 06:42:39 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Horvatrh,
I think most people assume that if you're mooring on a mooring ball, the
mooring belongs to you and it has established lines already
attached....if
you have to attach lines, I see why you back up to it but that is
certainly
not the usual method of catching a can....


I've never seen a mooring ball with lines already attached. But the
only mooring balls I've seen are public balls.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The lines are too heavy????

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:15:55 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


Here a ball floats on a light line, makes it easy to retrieve and pull
on deck.

Huh? Here they float on the water, and they're too heavy to pull up
on deck.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Could you explain how that would be done, then I'll go away. And does not
turning the boat around while at a mooring constitute sailing backward into
the breeze, 1 boat-length specifically.


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:19:03 -0300, "Blorgad"
scribbled thusly:

You know, the name calling really isn't called for. You state that
flying a
spinnaker would only work if moored to the aft. I agree. However, do
you
believe that it is at all possible for a bow-moored boat to be
be turned around by a spinnaker, or any other combination of sails for
that matter, so that the aft end travels upwind?


Yes with a great deal of effort and coordinated use of sails and
tiller you could turn the boat around.
No, you could not make it sail backward into the breeze.

Now go away, you're boring me.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.