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Bart Senior wrote:
1 pt each C'mon, I want more than one measly point! What is a range, and how are two lights used to establish a range? A range is two markers that should be kept in line with each other to follow a channel, like looking down a gun sight. The upper light is the further marker. Care should be taken when following a range to know the marks for *leaving* the range, I have seen plenty of range markers on dry land. Why would three lights be used? ?? Dunno, maybe to mark a danger bearing? What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness How are red sector in lights used? To mark a danger zone or a "no-approach" zone. Why are lighthouses all designed differently? You mean why do they have different colored & patterned stripes etc on them? So you can tell which is which, and thus where you are, if your GPS is broken! However many lighthouses do have the same colors or pattern. At night, what danger should a helmsman be aware of when steering for a lighted bouy that is being used as a way point? Be wary of hitting the darn thing. Also, in some places, be wary of hitting unlit markers along the same channel, or old out-of-service marks. It can be a real PITA. What is a Morse Code "A" light mean? Sea buoy, the outermost channel marker entering a larger port. Small sea channels won't have this. Good questions Bart. Thanks Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each C'mon, I want more than one measly point! What is a range, and how are two lights used to establish a range? A range is two markers that should be kept in line with each other to follow a channel, like looking down a gun sight. The upper light is the further marker. Care should be taken when following a range to know the marks for *leaving* the range, I have seen plenty of range markers on dry land. Why would three lights be used? ?? Dunno, maybe to mark a danger bearing? What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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Nav wrote: (call me Nav) There are those on this ng who would call your Nav but you didn't give his/her phone number. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Break Away, Sail Away and putz away now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
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Nav wrote:
To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Very good. But you jumped ahead, when you mention geo range you should tell about luminous range. Cheers (call me Nav) OK, Navvie Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Same for you. Need a little more detail to get a point for the one
question listed below. Nav wrote DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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It is remarkable that you prefer a long winded yet incomplete answer to
that which gives _all_ the factors without being longwinded. Was may answer not precise enough? :P Cheers Bart Senior wrote: Same for you. Need a little more detail to get a point for the one question listed below. Nav wrote DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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You didn't account at all for the curvature of the earth.
Yes, I do prefer more complete answers. The idea here is to pass on information to other readers. Details count. Nav wrote It is remarkable that you prefer a long winded yet incomplete answer to that which gives _all_ the factors without being longwinded. Was may answer not precise enough? Bart Senior wrote: Same for you. Need a little more detail to get a point for the one question listed below. DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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Hah! If the earth was not curved height would not be the primary
determinant of geographic range. You've still ignored the question of color which has a very large effect. Cheers Bart Senior wrote: You didn't account at all for the curvature of the earth. Yes, I do prefer more complete answers. The idea here is to pass on information to other readers. Details count. Nav wrote It is remarkable that you prefer a long winded yet incomplete answer to that which gives _all_ the factors without being longwinded. Was may answer not precise enough? Bart Senior wrote: Same for you. Need a little more detail to get a point for the one question listed below. DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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Nav wrote:
Hah! If the earth was not curved height would not be the primary determinant of geographic range. You've still ignored the question of color which has a very large effect. You are free to explain at length, if you wish. Or, if you don't like it here, you're free to go away. Your call. DSK |
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For additional information. The first thing you see on a very clear night,
when the clouds are reflective overhead of the light source, and/or when the distant light is very strong, is 'light loom.' That's the reflection of the light up into the sky and what you are seeing is not in direct line of sight. Altitude off the surface of the water still counts though so the higher you are the better off you are. The reflection can be of lights 30 to 50 miles off depending on the source. For example the lights of Miami, NewYork, Los Angeles or any other big city. On a good viewing night loom from Miami area can be seen out as far as the Bahamas. Normally though you are seeing light loom from a ship and the brightest lights are, invariably, fishing vessels. They use strong deck lights when night fishing for these reasons. Illuminate the deck working area, show they are 'shooting nets' and sometimes to attract the fish. As the light source draws near we see the source directly from our 120' vantage point out a bit further than 24 miles due to the combined heights. The higher the light source the farther we see it. One light, on the top of a mountain in the Canary Islands can be easily seen from our bridge wings at 40 miles and that's further than our radars will operate. Of course the light is many hundreds of feet above us. Light loom, under good viewing conditions, is a good advance indicator of things to come. Early warning device as it were. Multiple light looms often help us navigate between those rock filled waves (straits for example) or give warning of increased surface activity ahead (such as the fishing fleets around the entrance to the Med, both ends of Suez, the Red Sea etc. On a lower to the surface sailboat I couldn't hope to see at those distances BUT by using light loom reflections I can increase my range of visibility in many situations beyond simple direct vision. A useful tool at the very least. M. "Bart Senior" wrote in message news:EW%Fc.13086$kz.3 ... You didn't account at all for the curvature of the earth. Yes, I do prefer more complete answers. The idea here is to pass on information to other readers. Details count. Nav wrote It is remarkable that you prefer a long winded yet incomplete answer to that which gives _all_ the factors without being longwinded. Was may answer not precise enough? Bart Senior wrote: Same for you. Need a little more detail to get a point for the one question listed below. DSK wrote: Bart Senior wrote: 1 pt each What are the factors that determine a single light's visible range? The height and the brightness To be more precise, the height determines the geographic range while visible range is limited by conditions as well as luminosity and colour. Cheers (call me Nav) |
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