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Flying Tadpole July 4th 04 11:34 PM

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 


katysails wrote:

Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P

I KNEW it! And I saw the need for assimilation just last week!


Ha! ANOTHER one for the SPCA hunt list.
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Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 11:42 PM

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
|
| And just who is this General COnsensus?

The Commander & Chief of the Army of Public Opinion!

CM



John Cairns July 5th 04 12:29 AM

What if #7
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
.. .
I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line
behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel
somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets
out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two.

Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged
and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this.
It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability.

That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books.



Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire
life story was a work of fiction, even his name.

http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm

The funny thing, the author started out as an admirer trying to write a
biography of Jones, he dug up all this information researching the book.

John Cairns



katysails July 5th 04 03:19 AM

What if #7
 

life story was a work of fiction, even his name.

http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm

Gee...just like our own Capn Neal....who'd a thunk it?
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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John Cairns July 5th 04 05:04 AM

What if #7
 
Well not quite, beyond this ng Neal is completely unknown, Arthur "Tristan"
Jones achieved at least some celebrity, and notoriety, in the end. I
remember a few years back about an effort to restore the boat that he
claimed to have sailed at the highest altitude on record, some lake in the
Andes, I guess this claim was also a hoax, though it was accepted at the
time.

John Cairns

"katysails" wrote in message
...

life story was a work of fiction, even his name.

http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm

Gee...just like our own Capn Neal....who'd a thunk it?
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katysails July 5th 04 11:47 AM

What if #7
 
I guess this claim was also a hoax, though it was accepted at the
time.

It was a good read....and quite funny....I had my doubts about the reality
of the whole thing but the man certainly had a fertile imagination....hey,
so he didn't do all those things...he still sailed....

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Bart Senior July 5th 04 05:40 PM

What if #7
 
John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think
you owe me an apology.

I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can
check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000.

Look up the following:
One Hand for Yourself One for the Ship: The Essentials of Single
Handed Sailing by Tristan Jones on Amazon.com.

My review was published 32 months before the book you mentioned
Wayward Sailor by Anthony Dalton, was published on April 22, 2003

A copy of my review follows. I was the only one saying the guy
was a fraud, of many reviews.
***********************************************
MY REVIEW
***********************************************
I stopped buying Tristan Jones books because I felt there was
little substance to them and some fabrication added to help sell
them to the publishers. All the books are skimpy fast reads. I
hope my opinion is changed, but I'm unwilling to invest in any
more of them to find out.

He has a some of good advice for sailors at sea. However, I
have to say, that like most of his books I take what he writes
with a grain of salt. And, some of what he recommends, I
doubt he ever did himself.

That is not to say his advice is bad, just not practical in some
cases. I doubt many seaman would follow all of his advice.

For example, he recommends that single handed sailor drag a
line behind the boat hooked up to a trip wire arrangement to
heave the boat to. Great advice. I doubt anyone follows it or
that Tristan Jones did so. That doesn't mean it is not good
advice. This sort of thinking is smart thinking, planning ahead
for an emergency.

Likewise his advice for having a triangular patch of canvas
ready and rigged on the bow with control lines all set ready
to cover a hole below the waterline should the unlike event
happen that one gets holed below the waterline. This is just
something that would get in the way, foul up something else
on the boat and cause more trouble than it's worth. I think a
better idea is have one ready to go and practice rigging it.

Perhaps these ideas may make sense when you are sitting at
a typewriter trying to put enough substance in a book so you
can sell it to a publisher. This is my impression of Tristan Jones.

If you get something out of a book like this, you got something
that may give you an idea that will save your boat or yourself.

I gave it 3 stars because I felt it was like some of his other
books, short books made in an attempt to make money to
fund his roving lifestyle as a wandering seaman.

Hey he pulled it off.

Maybe you can too! Bring a laptop if you go cruising, there
is bound to be a story in it.
*********************************************
Link to my review:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...m_cr_dp_2_1/00
2-5919338-6697627?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER
********************************************
John Cairns wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote.

That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books.


Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire
life story was a work of fiction, even his name.

http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm

John Cairns




John Cairns July 5th 04 07:11 PM

What if #7
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think
you owe me an apology.

I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can
check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000.


What you posted originally:

"That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desperately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books."

You didn't indicate that you knew Jones was a fraud. There are a lot of
authors out there desperately trying to get published, most of them probably
aren't frauds, though some of them probably don't have anything worthwhile
to say.

What I posted originally:

"Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire
life story was a work of fiction, even his name."

I thought it worth mentioning since you didn't. I can't honestly comment on
any of Jones' books as I have never read any of them, he was a little before
my time.
Probably the only reason I recall any of it was the Dalton book was
mentioned by the skipper on the Atlantic crossing, a published author, who
happened to read the book and mentioned it was a good read, and I recall
vaguely a review published in "Sailing" when the Dalton book was released.
John Cairns



Bart Senior July 5th 04 10:06 PM

What if #7
 
I owe you an apology, John. I was out of line.

I thought you were implying I was mindlessly repeating
other peoples conclusions.


John Cairns wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think
you owe me an apology.

I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can
check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000.


What you posted originally:

"That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desperately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books."

"Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire
life story was a work of fiction, even his name."

I thought it worth mentioning since you didn't.
John Cairns





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