What if #7
 

That would be basic Fall Arrest Equipment... the attachment is at the back
between the shoulder blades. I'm currently using gear like that on
inspections of retaining walls along a 300 foot cliff.

Typical sailing harnesses are attached at the chest. Your safety lanyard
should be just long enough to stop you alongside the hull above the water.
Jack lines need to be thought out and secure.

If you have any clothing on, the drag would prevent you from even
entertaining the idea of pulling yourself up a line while under motion.

The manner Ozzy describes is pure dockside fallacy... or he's accomplished
it at 2 knots in dead calm water with nothing but a bathing suit on. Try
that "back pull" in any sea and it's futile. He won't do it even on his back
at 4.5 knots!

I've tried this when an old fisherman challenged my belief it was entirely
feasible..... I now understand it's not an option. The only safe option is
to stay onboard..... unless your boat is stopped.

CM



"Peter Wiley" wrote in message

| Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety
| line on a harness?
|
| Shoulder.
|
| Why? If it's in the middle of your chest, you'll drown due to the angle
| of drag thru the water. If it's between shoulders, you'll skid nicely
| over the water but have no ability to reach the line to haul yourself
| along. Also a PITA to attach/detach the safety line. An attachment at
| the shoulder allows access and low drag. Also it's more comfortable if
| you're sleeping in the damn thing.
|
| Our Stormy Seas floatcoats with built-in harness have 2 attachment
| points, one at chest level and one between shoulders but these are
| working coats for extreme conditions. The between shoulders point is
| for use by a helicopter or the like retrieving unconscious or
| incapacitated people.

What if #7
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
| On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:06:49 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| scribbled thusly:
|
| If you have any clothing on, the drag would prevent you from even
| entertaining the idea of pulling yourself up a line while under motion.
|
| Weener!

Don't you have some dusting to do there "House Sitter"?? ;-)

CM

What if #7
 

I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line
behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel
somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets
out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two.

Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged
and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this.
It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability.

That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books.

Capt. Mooron wrote

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

| Bingo! BB wins the cupie doll! Anybody here ever tried this trick?
Even
if you do it on purpose,
| just to see, it's pretty much impossible even with a 25 foot line.
Before
anyone hangs a line of
| their stern and thinks that this is a substitute for proper seamanship
they should try it, with someone
| still on the boat to drive of course, your illusions of safety will be
quickly evaporated.

I tried it on Overproof at about four knots....... I just tagged the 3/4
mark of a 100 foot floating yellow 3/4" line. This was knowing what was
about to occur. There is no way to pull yourself up that rope! NO WAY!

CM

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:



My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the
Warp Engines offline. ;-)


That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
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Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
|
|
| My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
| Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking
the
| Warp Engines offline. ;-)
|
|
| That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...

May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer!

Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P

Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated!

CM

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
|
|
| My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
| Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking
the
| Warp Engines offline. ;-)
|
|
| That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...

May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer!

Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P

Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated!

1. The Farce is what I'm working on.
2. If you've contracted MCs paranoia, you might find it helps to
think of the boat as a Cubie Doll.
3. Who's ass is being immolated?? Does the SPCA/RSPCA know?
(see, we keep our "G" classification!)

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
| |
| |
| |
| | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote
Transporter
| | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to
taking
| the
| | Warp Engines offline. ;-)
| |
| |
| | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...
|
| May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer!
|
| Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
| Borg Cube? ;-P
|
| Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated!
|
| 1. The Farce is what I'm working on.

Do Tell...... may I point out that general consensus suggests you let the
Farce guide you as opposed to guiding the Farce.

| 2. If you've contracted MCs paranoia, you might find it helps to
| think of the boat as a Cubie Doll.

I'm immune to the Paranoia virus due to the fact I contracted Terminal
Arrogance in my youth.

| 3. Who's ass is being immolated?? Does the SPCA/RSPCA know?
| (see, we keep our "G" classification!)

Having seen first hand the ability required to sail a Bolger Design.... I'm
prepared to supply crew to all the Bolger designs racing during the Wooden
Boat Festival. Now I just have to figure out were to place the sandbags on
those scarecrows! ;-)

CM

What if #7
 

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 04:22:24 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line
behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel
somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets
out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two.

Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged
and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this.
It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability.

That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying
to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he
could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books.


He also said he had a light line sistered to the towed line that would
trip the windvane steerer so the boat would head up into the wind.
Even Tristan never claimed he could pull himself up a line at 4.5
knots. lol
Mark E. Williams

Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P

I KNEW it! And I saw the need for assimilation just last week!

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Proposition: The Fool's Act
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
| |
| |
| |
| | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote
Transporter
| | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to
taking
| the
| | Warp Engines offline. ;-)
| |
| |
| | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...
|
| May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer!
|
| Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
| Borg Cube? ;-P
|
| Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated!
|
| 1. The Farce is what I'm working on.

Do Tell...... may I point out that general consensus suggests you let the
Farce guide you as opposed to guiding the Farce.

And just who is this General COnsensus?

Having seen first hand the ability required to sail a Bolger Design.... I'm
prepared to supply crew to all the Bolger designs racing during the Wooden
Boat Festival. Now I just have to figure out were to place the sandbags on
those scarecrows! ;-)

A wimp. TWO of us used to handle Flying Tadpole II successfully
in far more wind and wave than the Mahone Bay harbour turns on,
without recourse to sand bags!
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
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now at http://music.download.com/internetopera