What If # 6
 

Yeh with a big engine so he can motor effectively.

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Jim Cate wrote:



More like: raise the board and motor out a little futher, set the
anchor, and then sit back, drink a Margarita and listen to some Vivaldi
or Beethoven while you watch the sunset.

Ahhhh. A boat and boatman perfectly suited to a total absence of
wind and wave.

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What If # 6
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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No sweat. If it's a Mac 26M, just close the hatches and start a fire in

the cabin..

Jim


More like: raise the board and motor out a little futher, set the
anchor, and then sit back, drink a Margarita and listen to some Vivaldi
or Beethoven while you watch the sunset.


If you had an older Mac (they were actualy sailboats at one time) with a
swing keel, you wouldn't be stuck in the first place. With your dagger
board, it will either break the board (most likely) or break the trunk/hull.
Good thing you have that double hull, eh?


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S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

What If # 6
 

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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No sweat. If it's a Mac 26M, just close the hatches and start a fire in

the cabin..


Jim


More like: raise the board and motor out a little futher, set the
anchor, and then sit back, drink a Margarita and listen to some Vivaldi
or Beethoven while you watch the sunset.



If you had an older Mac (they were actualy sailboats at one time) with a
swing keel, you wouldn't be stuck in the first place. With your dagger
board, it will either break the board (most likely) or break the trunk/hull.
Good thing you have that double hull, eh?

Question #6 related to some poor soul who anchored his boat in plenty of
water, and then realized that the tide was going out and his keel was
beginning to grind against the bottom between swells. It hadn't dug into
or sat on the bottom yet. If he had a swing keel that was left down, it
would have the same problem suffered by the fixed-keel boat unless the
board was loose or pulled back.

Because the Mac 26M is lightweight yet highly reinforced in the hull and
dagger board trunk area, I doubt seriously that it would break either
the board (which is a flexible, reinforced fiberglass member, not a
rigid lead keel) or the trunk/hull before I realized what was happening
and raised the board and moved the boat out to a safer position. The
noise of the board hitting the bottom would also be more noticable than
on a heavy keel boat.

On second thought, perhaps music by Brahms or Schubert would be more
relaxing. - Maybe a few glasses of Bordeaux, or a gin and tonic?

Jim

What If # 6
 

"Jim Cate" lied...

Question #6 related to some poor soul who anchored his boat in plenty of
water, and then realized that the tide was going out and his keel was
beginning to grind against the bottom between swells. It hadn't dug into
or sat on the bottom yet.

Wrong again, jimbo. Liar.



Because the Mac 26M is lightweight

in other words CHEAPly made.



dagger board trunk area, I doubt seriously that it would break either
the board (which is a flexible, reinforced fiberglass member, not a
rigid lead keel) or the trunk/hull before I realized what was happening
and raised the board and moved the boat out to a safer position. The
noise of the board hitting the bottom would also be more noticable than
on a heavy keel boat.


you'll find out. do a google on ''Mac boards breaking''.



On second thought, perhaps music by Benny Hill would be more
apropo.
Maybe a few glasses of Bordeaux, or a gin and tonic would make me feel like
a real sailor?

Jim

What If # 6
 

Scott Vernon wrote:
"Jim Cate" lied...

Question #6 related to some poor soul who anchored his boat in plenty of
water, and then realized that the tide was going out and his keel was
beginning to grind against the bottom between swells. It hadn't dug into
or sat on the bottom yet.


Wrong again, jimbo. Liar.


Scott, remember what your 6-th grade teacher would tell you when she
gave you a test? - Remember to READ THE QUESTION first. - Here's the
gist of the question:

"...You've badly grounded your boat. You just left for
a 4 week cruise and now her wing keel has settled atop a group of rocks
at high tide, WHICH YOU THOUOGHT YOU'D BE CLEAR OF. At the top of every
swell, the keel grinds and as the tide slacks (soon!) you know things
could get worse.. . ."

Obviously the guy wouldn't conclude he had anchored the boat
successfully if the boat was grinding against the bottom. Obviously the
water level, or the swing,or the chop, etc., changed after the anchoring
process, resulting in the unexpected grounding.


Because the Mac 26M is lightweight


in other words CHEAPly made.

If what you mean by "cheaply made" refers to the fact that MacGregor
understands and practices modern scientific design and manufacturing
practices, perhaps so. (I personally don't think paying for a hand-made
boat, or a custom made auto, etc., to get hand-made parts and manual
finish work is all that important.) But if what you mean is that the
hull is not sufficiently strong to do the job, and that the hulls, deck
joints, etc., of hundreds or thousands of Macs all over the country are
falling apart resulting in hundreds of deaths of passengers on these
boats, then it should be easy for you to provide lots of evidence, news
reports, etc. regarding the problem. But you can't, can you? So far, all
anyone on this ng has been able to do is to provide a few anecdotes of
problems with Macs that, for the most part, were attributable to drunk
or inexperienced skippers, etc. -

"Lightly made" doesn't mean low quality. - A Ferrari is "lightly made,"
for obvious reasons, but not cheaply made.

dagger board trunk area, I doubt seriously that it would break either
the board (which is a flexible, reinforced fiberglass member, not a
rigid lead keel) or the trunk/hull before I realized what was happening
and raised the board and moved the boat out to a safer position. The
noise of the board hitting the bottom would also be more noticable than
on a heavy keel boat.



you'll find out. do a google on ''Mac boards breaking''.

I'm sure it happens. Stuff can happen on any boat. However, you haven't
provided any evidence that the Mac would be more likely to fail or be
critically damaged under the particular circumstances outlined in this
Question 6. Just the opposite. - There are too many "ways out" of the
problem on the Mac, including: raising the board, motoring out through
shallow water to get to a better anchorage, beaching the boat. etc.


On second thought, perhaps music by Benny Hill would be more
apropo.
Maybe a few glasses of Bordeaux, or a gin and tonic would make me feel like

a real sailor?

Jim

So I'm not a "real sailor"? I would bet that I have been sailing longer
than you have.

Jim

What If # 6
 

So I'm not a "real sailor"? I would bet that I have been sailing longer
than you have.


You'd win that bet. Scotty Potty does not sail.

RB

What If # 6
 

Scott, don't forget that the dagger board on the mac isn't fixed, or
tied down. Actually, the only thing holding it down is gravity. What
this means in the context of Question #6 is that if the board hit the
bottom as the boat fell down off a wave or during a falling tide, the
boat would merely slide downwardly on the dagger board, or, the dagger
board would be pushed upwardly relative to the dagger board trunk. In
other words, it's yet another advantage of the Mac design. - If the
dagger board impacts the bottom, it merely telescopes upwardly within
the trunk rather than damaging the boat.

Jim



Scott Vernon wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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No sweat. If it's a Mac 26M, just close the hatches and start a fire in

the cabin..


Jim


More like: raise the board and motor out a little futher, set the
anchor, and then sit back, drink a Margarita and listen to some Vivaldi
or Beethoven while you watch the sunset.



If you had an older Mac (they were actualy sailboats at one time) with a
swing keel, you wouldn't be stuck in the first place. With your dagger
board, it will either break the board (most likely) or break the trunk/hull.
Good thing you have that double hull, eh?


--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

*** I R O N Y ***
 

Isn't it ironic? At the very same time boob**** posted this juvenile,
jealous ridden post, I was out sailing.

Scotty


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You'd win that bet. Scotty Potty does not sail.

RB

***S A D I R O N Y ***
 

Isn't Scotty Potty sad? At the time he posted the item below I was sitting at
my nav station drinking ice water having spent two days aboard. We're spending
more and more time aboard and sailing, while Scotty Potty tries to squeeze in a
daysail here and there!


Scotty Potty wrote:
Isn't it ironic? At the very same time boob**** posted this juvenile,
jealous ridden post, I was out sailing.


RB

***MORE I R O N Y ***
 

boob**** bragging about time spent in his slip.

;)))))))))))))))0

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Isn't Scotty Potty sad? At the time he posted the item below I was sitting
at
my nav station drinking ice water having spent two days aboard. We're
spending
more and more time aboard.