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I put ECHO in the water on Friday. The mast goes in this week.
It was a long haul. The boat sat out of the water for several years. This year I decided to get it finished and started work in early April. Here are some photos showing the fairing work, and final result. Is this worth any points? http://community.webshots.com/user/night_sailor Click on ECHO Reborn for the slideshow. I have to say it was a hard difficult job. Nearly two months of work with rarely a day off, plus about 110 hours of sanding help from my brother. I figure the job would have cost about 20-25,000. Materials cost about $2000, and labor for my brother another $2400. Once it was painted, using tip and roll and two part epoxy, I got many, many, complements. Everyone in the yard came over to talk to me about the boat. It seems that whenever I do a big job like this, people are so impressed that they want to meet me. I put the paint on thin, sanded between the three coats and it came out like it was sprayed. I made my own copper epoxy bottom paint--time will tell how well it works. I spent the yesterday working on the engine--one little check valve was broken on the fuel pump--but it took hours to figure that out. I should be out sailing in it in a few days. Oh, and a friend of mine sold his Etchells and forgot to give the buyer his spinnakers. I got a brand new tri-radial for free! This has been a great month for me. Bart Senior |
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Nice pics Bart.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... I put ECHO in the water on Friday. The mast goes in this week. It was a long haul. The boat sat out of the water for several years. This year I decided to get it finished and started work in early April. Here are some photos showing the fairing work, and final result. Is this worth any points? http://community.webshots.com/user/night_sailor Click on ECHO Reborn for the slideshow. I have to say it was a hard difficult job. Nearly two months of work with rarely a day off, plus about 110 hours of sanding help from my brother. I figure the job would have cost about 20-25,000. Materials cost about $2000, and labor for my brother another $2400. Once it was painted, using tip and roll and two part epoxy, I got many, many, complements. Everyone in the yard came over to talk to me about the boat. It seems that whenever I do a big job like this, people are so impressed that they want to meet me. I put the paint on thin, sanded between the three coats and it came out like it was sprayed. I made my own copper epoxy bottom paint--time will tell how well it works. I spent the yesterday working on the engine--one little check valve was broken on the fuel pump--but it took hours to figure that out. I should be out sailing in it in a few days. Oh, and a friend of mine sold his Etchells and forgot to give the buyer his spinnakers. I got a brand new tri-radial for free! This has been a great month for me. Bart Senior |
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Nice job, beautiful boat!
John Cairns "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... I put ECHO in the water on Friday. The mast goes in this week. It was a long haul. The boat sat out of the water for several years. This year I decided to get it finished and started work in early April. Here are some photos showing the fairing work, and final result. Is this worth any points? http://community.webshots.com/user/night_sailor Click on ECHO Reborn for the slideshow. I have to say it was a hard difficult job. Nearly two months of work with rarely a day off, plus about 110 hours of sanding help from my brother. I figure the job would have cost about 20-25,000. Materials cost about $2000, and labor for my brother another $2400. Once it was painted, using tip and roll and two part epoxy, I got many, many, complements. Everyone in the yard came over to talk to me about the boat. It seems that whenever I do a big job like this, people are so impressed that they want to meet me. I put the paint on thin, sanded between the three coats and it came out like it was sprayed. I made my own copper epoxy bottom paint--time will tell how well it works. I spent the yesterday working on the engine--one little check valve was broken on the fuel pump--but it took hours to figure that out. I should be out sailing in it in a few days. Oh, and a friend of mine sold his Etchells and forgot to give the buyer his spinnakers. I got a brand new tri-radial for free! This has been a great month for me. Bart Senior |
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Nicely done Bart - inspirational!
Scout "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... I put ECHO in the water on Friday. The mast goes in this week. It was a long haul. The boat sat out of the water for several years. This year I decided to get it finished and started work in early April. Here are some photos showing the fairing work, and final result. Is this worth any points? http://community.webshots.com/user/night_sailor Click on ECHO Reborn for the slideshow. I have to say it was a hard difficult job. Nearly two months of work with rarely a day off, plus about 110 hours of sanding help from my brother. I figure the job would have cost about 20-25,000. Materials cost about $2000, and labor for my brother another $2400. Once it was painted, using tip and roll and two part epoxy, I got many, many, complements. Everyone in the yard came over to talk to me about the boat. It seems that whenever I do a big job like this, people are so impressed that they want to meet me. I put the paint on thin, sanded between the three coats and it came out like it was sprayed. I made my own copper epoxy bottom paint--time will tell how well it works. I spent the yesterday working on the engine--one little check valve was broken on the fuel pump--but it took hours to figure that out. I should be out sailing in it in a few days. Oh, and a friend of mine sold his Etchells and forgot to give the buyer his spinnakers. I got a brand new tri-radial for free! This has been a great month for me. Bart Senior |
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Wow, that was a LOT of work....looks like it was worth it, though...100 pts.
for you. BTW, Lady Pilot might switch her allegiance when she sees pics of both you and your boats.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote:
Wow, that was a LOT of work....looks like it was worth it, though...100 pts. for you. C'mon, I'd say more like 500 easy. Bart, Echo is *beautiful*. The colors you chose are great. BTW, Lady Pilot might switch her allegiance when she sees pics of both you and your boats.... Mercenary wench? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue,
then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. DSK wrote katysails wrote: Wow, that was a LOT of work....looks like it was worth it, though...100 pts. for you. C'mon, I'd say more like 500 easy. Bart, Echo is *beautiful*. The colors you chose are great. BTW, Lady Pilot might switch her allegiance when she sees pics of both you and your boats.... Mercenary wench? Women seem to like a big mast... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Last winter I couldn't get a date. Now I have women chasing me and no time for them. katysails wrote Wow, that was a LOT of work....looks like it was worth it, though...100 pts. for you. BTW, Lady Pilot might switch her allegiance when she sees pics of both you and your boats.... -- katysails |
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Looks good Bart. 10/10.
You must be excited launching after all that time. Does anyone really know how much hotter a blue hull makes a boat? I like dark blue hulls, but really hate hot nights in the boat. -- Scotty S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. DSK wrote katysails wrote: Wow, that was a LOT of work....looks like it was worth it, though...100 pts. for you. C'mon, I'd say more like 500 easy. Bart, Echo is *beautiful*. The colors you chose are great. BTW, Lady Pilot might switch her allegiance when she sees pics of both you and your boats.... Mercenary wench? Women seem to like a big mast... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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I like dark blue hulls, but
really hate hot nights in the boat. According to your wife, thier hasn't been a hot night aboard your boat since you got it. Bwahahahaha! RB |
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Bart Senior wrote:
The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Last time my wife and I were shopping for a car, she really liked a dark green one which I vetoed because of the color. The salesmen started saying how it didn't make much difference etc etc and since it was parked next to a light blue car, I suggested a simple test. Lay your hand on the hood of each and start counting. he couldn't keep his hand on the green one for the count of ten, but it was possible (uncomfortable though) to keep contact with the light colored one. If you just briefly touch each one you could believe the temp was almost the same. Nathaniel G. Herreshoff once said, "There are only two colors that are proper for a yacht. One is white and one is black. Only a damn fool would paint a yacht black." Bart Senior wrote: Last winter I couldn't get a date. Now I have women chasing me and no time for them. Shucks, you got your priorities all wrong. You have to sleep at night anyway, right? Mercenary wench? Women seem to like a big mast... Dang and here all this time I thought it was the rigging. DSK |
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Last winter I couldn't get a date.
That's weird....you seem like a nice guy...maybe you weren't looking in the right places? Know what you mean though...a lady stopped Mr Sails in the parking lot of the grocery store when she saw our yacht club parking sticker on the rear bumper of my car...she started yammering to him about how much she enjoyed sailing yadyada and didn't see me crouched down behind the door, picking something up off the ground....I stood up and he immediately said " It's my wife's boat...." -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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DSK wrote in message . ..
Bart Senior wrote: The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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You're not exaggerating, are you Joe?
Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message . .. Bart Senior wrote: The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The
first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't walk on 'em barefoot. John Cairns "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... You're not exaggerating, are you Joe? Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message . .. Bart Senior wrote: The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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yes, it was. I wasn't sure how believable it is about blue hulls being
hotter than white ones. Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "John Cairns" wrote in message ... I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't walk on 'em barefoot. John Cairns "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... You're not exaggerating, are you Joe? Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message . .. Bart Senior wrote: The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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John Cairns wrote:
I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't walk on 'em barefoot. In NC in high summer our teak deck gets too hot to walk on. Even a cream colored fiberglass deck will get uncomfortable hot. I like a little tint in the deck coating to cut glare, but you can't overdo it unless you want to cook. A couple of our friends have full deck shades and say that they do a marvelous keeping the boat cooler. Troublesome to stow when not in use, though. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Talking to yacht brokers in Florida, they tell me that teak decks
are a no-no down there. Too hot. Awnings are nice to have. And high on my list of things to do. Bart DSK wrote John Cairns wrote: I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't walk on 'em barefoot. In NC in high summer our teak deck gets too hot to walk on. Even a cream colored fiberglass deck will get uncomfortable hot. I like a little tint in the deck coating to cut glare, but you can't overdo it unless you want to cook. A couple of our friends have full deck shades and say that they do a marvelous keeping the boat cooler. Troublesome to stow when not in use, though. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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I find that if I act interested in a woman, the woman will lose interest in
me. When I am not interested at all, like when I have a steady girlfriend, or I'm just too busy to date, they suddenly get interested. It's proof that women don't think logically, but rather react to being ignored by turning up the heat. Any man will tell you that. Lately I've been telling women I have no money to date. The inside of the boat is a mess--I really don't want visitors right now. Yet twice in two weeks women have dropped by the boat with a bottle of wine and romantic notions. This time of year boats are better bait than a Corvette. Now if I could only get them to stop by with West Marine gift certificates! Perhaps I should post a sign--no women on board without a WM gift certificate! I bet they would bring them. Bart katysails wrote Last winter I couldn't get a date. That's weird....you seem like a nice guy...maybe you weren't looking in the right places? Know what you mean though...a lady stopped Mr Sails in the parking lot of the grocery store when she saw our yacht club parking sticker on the rear bumper of my car...she started yammering to him about how much she enjoyed sailing yadyada and didn't see me crouched down behind the door, picking something up off the ground....I stood up and he immediately said " It's my wife's boat...." |
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You have a mast on your trawler right?
You can substitute a thick mast for a long one. DSK wrote Women seem to like a big mast... Dang and here all this time I thought it was the rigging. |
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Bart speculated:
Perhaps I should post a sign--no women on board without a WM gift certificate! I bet they would bring them. We all have out little fantasies.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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How dark a grey were your decks, Joe? Mine are a mix of white
with light grey--like my topsides, boot and cove stripes. I can only estimate the difference between the white topsides and the old navy blue. With navy blue topsides, the sweat poured off me like a water hose. The only time I have felt hotter was pulling 3.5 negative gees in humid 98 degree weather in a T-37. With the white topsides and a fan or two, it is has been slightly sweaty when I was working, and comfortable when I'm relaxing. particularly, when the sun was not at its peak, the boat is now very comfortable. Bart Joe wrote DSK wrote Bart Senior wrote: then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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This is sooo true! So, one must cultivate aloofness without complete
lack of interest. It's an art form. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" wrote in message .. . I find that if I act interested in a woman, the woman will lose interest in me. When I am not interested at all, like when I have a steady girlfriend, or I'm just too busy to date, they suddenly get interested. It's proof that women don't think logically, but rather react to being ignored by turning up the heat. Any man will tell you that. Lately I've been telling women I have no money to date. The inside of the boat is a mess--I really don't want visitors right now. Yet twice in two weeks women have dropped by the boat with a bottle of wine and romantic notions. This time of year boats are better bait than a Corvette. Now if I could only get them to stop by with West Marine gift certificates! Perhaps I should post a sign--no women on board without a WM gift certificate! I bet they would bring them. Bart katysails wrote Last winter I couldn't get a date. That's weird....you seem like a nice guy...maybe you weren't looking in the right places? Know what you mean though...a lady stopped Mr Sails in the parking lot of the grocery store when she saw our yacht club parking sticker on the rear bumper of my car...she started yammering to him about how much she enjoyed sailing yadyada and didn't see me crouched down behind the door, picking something up off the ground....I stood up and he immediately said " It's my wife's boat...." |
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Jon claimed:
one must cultivate aloofness Methinks a little more fertilizer might help your aloofness along.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Is that why a lot of women are attracted to gay men?
SV "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... This is sooo true! So, one must cultivate aloofness without complete lack of interest. It's an art form. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" wrote in message .. . I find that if I act interested in a woman, the woman will lose interest in me. When I am not interested at all, like when I have a steady girlfriend, or I'm just too busy to date, they suddenly get interested. It's proof that women don't think logically, but rather react to being ignored by turning up the heat. Any man will tell you that. Lately I've been telling women I have no money to date. The inside of the boat is a mess--I really don't want visitors right now. Yet twice in two weeks women have dropped by the boat with a bottle of wine and romantic notions. This time of year boats are better bait than a Corvette. Now if I could only get them to stop by with West Marine gift certificates! Perhaps I should post a sign--no women on board without a WM gift certificate! I bet they would bring them. Bart katysails wrote Last winter I couldn't get a date. That's weird....you seem like a nice guy...maybe you weren't looking in the right places? Know what you mean though...a lady stopped Mr Sails in the parking lot of the grocery store when she saw our yacht club parking sticker on the rear bumper of my car...she started yammering to him about how much she enjoyed sailing yadyada and didn't see me crouched down behind the door, picking something up off the ground....I stood up and he immediately said " It's my wife's boat...." |
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Jon claimed:
one must cultivate aloofness katysails wrote: Methinks a little more fertilizer might help your aloofness along.... And it would help explain the shovel marks on his forehead DSK |
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I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England.
http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm And I was pleased to see this! ERICSON 46 72 Similar to this! SWAN 47 72 |
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Well, it does help to shovel them some sh*t from time to time. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Jon claimed: one must cultivate aloofness Methinks a little more fertilizer might help your aloofness along.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Don't know... ask Horass?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Is that why a lot of women are attracted to gay men? SV "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... This is sooo true! So, one must cultivate aloofness without complete lack of interest. It's an art form. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" wrote in message .. . I find that if I act interested in a woman, the woman will lose interest in me. When I am not interested at all, like when I have a steady girlfriend, or I'm just too busy to date, they suddenly get interested. It's proof that women don't think logically, but rather react to being ignored by turning up the heat. Any man will tell you that. Lately I've been telling women I have no money to date. The inside of the boat is a mess--I really don't want visitors right now. Yet twice in two weeks women have dropped by the boat with a bottle of wine and romantic notions. This time of year boats are better bait than a Corvette. Now if I could only get them to stop by with West Marine gift certificates! Perhaps I should post a sign--no women on board without a WM gift certificate! I bet they would bring them. Bart katysails wrote Last winter I couldn't get a date. That's weird....you seem like a nice guy...maybe you weren't looking in the right places? Know what you mean though...a lady stopped Mr Sails in the parking lot of the grocery store when she saw our yacht club parking sticker on the rear bumper of my car...she started yammering to him about how much she enjoyed sailing yadyada and didn't see me crouched down behind the door, picking something up off the ground....I stood up and he immediately said " It's my wife's boat...." |
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I duck better than that.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Jon claimed: one must cultivate aloofness katysails wrote: Methinks a little more fertilizer might help your aloofness along.... And it would help explain the shovel marks on his forehead DSK |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
You're not exaggerating, are you Joe? Scotty Not at all. When the decks were haze grey you could blister your feet on the dog days of summer. You could touch a few exposed stringers and they felt like radiators inside the cabin. I did not want white because they show so much dirt ect.. Now I just scrub the decks more often and enjoy the coolness. As far as hull color goes I do not think it is as much of an issue. Because of the angle of the sun. Cabin tops and decks need to be a light color if your getting hot below. RedCloud was buildt in the North Sea and was first painted all black to absorbe heat in the winter I suppose. If it were painted all black here in Texas Im sure it would explode ;0) joe "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message . .. Bart Senior wrote: The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue, then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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DSK wrote in message ...
John Cairns wrote: I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't walk on 'em barefoot. In NC in high summer our teak deck gets too hot to walk on. Even a cream colored fiberglass deck will get uncomfortable hot. I like a little tint in the deck coating to cut glare, but you can't overdo it unless you want to cook. A couple of our friends have full deck shades and say that they do a marvelous keeping the boat cooler. Troublesome to stow when not in use, though. We have tropical canvas to cover the cabins. Usually put them up after July 4th, they make a big difference. Also have canvas drain pipes on them to collect rain. Perfect for the tropics. Mine lace to the rails. Joe Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message t...
How dark a grey were your decks, Joe? Mine are a mix of white with light grey--like my topsides, boot and cove stripes. Haze Gray, ever see a Navy Ship? Most are haze gray and underway. I can only estimate the difference between the white topsides and the old navy blue. With navy blue topsides, the sweat poured off me like a water hose. The only time I have felt hotter was pulling 3.5 negative gees in humid 98 degree weather in a T-37. With the white topsides and a fan or two, it is has been slightly sweaty when I was working, and comfortable when I'm relaxing. particularly, when the sun was not at its peak, the boat is now very comfortable. With white topsides and 3600 BTU's of AC's we keep cool. And luckly the electricity is include with the slip, no meter! Joe Bart Joe wrote DSK wrote Bart Senior wrote: then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler. I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was too hot inside. Makes a bigger difference than people would believe. Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day I painted the decks white. Joe DSK |
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Bart Senior wrote: I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England. http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm And I was pleased to see this! ERICSON 46 72 Similar to this! SWAN 47 72 Or the Express 37, or the J-35, or the Schock 35, or the Frers 38, or the J-109, or the Lacoste 42, or the Soverel 39, or the Tartan 46... You're in pretty good company. OTOH the Corel 45 rates somewhere in the minusses, and that's a very roomy boat... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Joe" wrote
With white topsides and 3600 BTU's of AC's we keep cool. And luckly the electricity is include with the slip, no meter! No meter!??! How did you swing that deal? I've got some long extension cords, would you mind? Scotty |
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:21:03 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap: I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England. http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm CAL 20 282 Heh Heh Heh. With a rating like that, it would take two hours just to leave the marina. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually
make it back. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:21:03 GMT, "Bart Senior" wrote this crap: I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England. http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm CAL 20 282 Heh Heh Heh. With a rating like that, it would take two hours just to leave the marina. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:25:44 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually make it back. Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"? You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in rainbow. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"?
You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in rainbow. Horvath, in all seriousness, the Hunter marque is among the worst and garners far less respect than Jonathan's Cal, which is certainly considered "classic plastic. In the last 3 years Hunter has greatly improved quality control matching Catalina and exceeding Beneteau, but earlier Hunter's are frowned on by sailors and surveyors alike. If your Hunter is less than 3 years old, you may have a reasonable low end boat. If not, you have my sympathy, but then you should have done your homework before buying. RB |
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So what you're saying is that not only are you stuipd but you're blind.
You're the gay boy. You keep mentioning it at every opportunity. FYI, it's easy to call your boat crapola because of the "owner." -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:25:44 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually make it back. Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"? You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in rainbow. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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