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Jeff Morris June 20th 04 12:23 PM

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
....
They had 51 Mercury's in Boston when I was there?
What happened to the other 21?


The 30 were the first set purchased in 1952. I also remember about 60 in the
late '50s when I was there. They now have 65 centerboard Merc's and 12 keel
versions, plus Rhodes 19's, Sonars, 420's, Lasers, windsurfers, kayaks, and a
few others.


http://www.community-boating.org/fleet.html



Bobsprit June 20th 04 01:14 PM

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http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/3/5/4/1135416_1.jpg

I bet poor Horvath doesn't even know what it is!



It's an ugly POS. My guess it's, "landfill."


Bwahahahahaha! Well, I guess to someone who thinks a Hunter has lines that may
be true!!!

RB

katysails June 20th 04 02:27 PM

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http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/3/5/4/1135416_1.jpg

Pretty thing...what is it?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Bart Senior June 20th 04 03:10 PM

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I like some of the Pearson's. Particularly the Pearson 37.
I've heard about the Countess. Always wondered what
they looked like. I like ketch rigs also.

That's a pretty one.

I like Hunters's too. I've taught on several. I like the
Hunter 376.

Bart

Bobsprit wrote

Is that a Gallant 54? I almost bought one owned by
one of the first women to solo circumnavigate.

1965 Pearson Countess Ketch, Alden design. Quite a boat. There's a sloop
version at my club as well.
Horvath bought a Hunter. To him a classic means a Hunter 25. Nuff said.

RB




Bart Senior June 20th 04 03:12 PM

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Katy,

Here is a good link I just found. Thanks RB for
bringing it up.

http://pearsoninfo.net/countess/countess.htm


katysails wrote in message
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http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/3/5/4/1135416_1.jpg

Pretty thing...what is it?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





katysails June 20th 04 05:22 PM

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Thanks for that nice link, Bart (and RB)....went to each boat...all equally
nice....especially liked the Pearson 424....Now that's a real liveaboard
boat!

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Bobsprit June 20th 04 05:37 PM

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went to each boat...all equally
nice....especially liked the Pearson 424....Now that's a real liveaboard
boat!

I've sailed the 424...actually two weeks ago. Slow, slow boat, but very
comfortable. The one I was on had very old sails, so that wasn't helping.

RB

Jonathan Ganz June 21st 04 06:29 PM

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I finally got the single line reefing system straightened out this Saturday
after class. I followed the Harken model, but used my own scounged
parts. Seems to work fine.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
That's a good project boat Jon.

I like all glass boats, since they are tough and easy to restore.
Chances are that boat will out live you.

Bart

Jonathan Ganz wrote

Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk...

When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its
time in several ways. My particular boat has sailed on the bay
since 1965. She was overbuilt with fiberglass... they didn't really
understand the strength of glass those days, so they overbuilt it
just to be sure. The result was a very stiff and sea-kindly boat that
was and is capable of standing up to the rigors of the bay, a place
that typically has 20-25 kts during most of the sailing season.

When I first saw my boat, it had rainwater in it because someone
had stolen the hatch cover. Other than that, and an illegal
head, there was nothing structurally wrong with it, and since
it was basically free, I decided to take on the project of
restoring her. It was an expensive, valuable, and worthwhile
experience. I replaced all the standing/running rigging, added
electronics, bilge pump, and painted her inside and out. I fixed
the "experiment" someone started on the bulb keel. I removed
and replaced the keel bolts, basically anything that could be
replaced. The only things that are original besides the hull/keel
are the mast, boom, and rudder/tiller. It has an oversized rudder,
which means she can stand on her ear and still drive straight
with very little effort.

Oh, and it came with a working, good shape 4-horse 2-stroke
Evinrude that weighs only 35 pounds. I just found out that they
go for $525 locally, because that size engine of that weight is
very hard to find.

I think I'll keep my "piece of ****" boat. Thank you kindly.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:59:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

They're pieces of crap just like yours.

You got room to talk? You have a piece of **** that someone was
throwing away.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!








Jonathan Ganz June 21st 04 06:30 PM

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Well... I spend my share on it. :-) But, it was more sweat equity
and knowledgebuilding for sure.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Good for you , Jon. Some people think that money doesth make the sailor.

--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk...

When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its
time in several ways. My particular boat has sailed on the bay
since 1965. She was overbuilt with fiberglass... they didn't really
understand the strength of glass those days, so they overbuilt it
just to be sure. The result was a very stiff and sea-kindly boat that
was and is capable of standing up to the rigors of the bay, a place
that typically has 20-25 kts during most of the sailing season.

When I first saw my boat, it had rainwater in it because someone
had stolen the hatch cover. Other than that, and an illegal
head, there was nothing structurally wrong with it, and since
it was basically free, I decided to take on the project of
restoring her. It was an expensive, valuable, and worthwhile
experience. I replaced all the standing/running rigging, added
electronics, bilge pump, and painted her inside and out. I fixed
the "experiment" someone started on the bulb keel. I removed
and replaced the keel bolts, basically anything that could be
replaced. The only things that are original besides the hull/keel
are the mast, boom, and rudder/tiller. It has an oversized rudder,
which means she can stand on her ear and still drive straight
with very little effort.

Oh, and it came with a working, good shape 4-horse 2-stroke
Evinrude that weighs only 35 pounds. I just found out that they
go for $525 locally, because that size engine of that weight is
very hard to find.

I think I'll keep my "piece of ****" boat. Thank you kindly.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:59:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

They're pieces of crap just like yours.

You got room to talk? You have a piece of **** that someone was
throwing away.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!







Jonathan Ganz June 21st 04 06:31 PM

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Well, that's pretty typical for you. You have no concept of quality,
so I'm not amazed that it would bore you. You still haven't explained
rainbow spam. I couldn't find anything on google related to it. Is it
a gay thing?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:55:25 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk...

When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its


I deleted the rest of your crap without reading it. Any boat from the
mid 60s is AN OLD PIECE OF ****. It's rotted away, and is worthless
as a sailing vessel.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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