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Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk...
When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its time in several ways. My particular boat has sailed on the bay since 1965. She was overbuilt with fiberglass... they didn't really understand the strength of glass those days, so they overbuilt it just to be sure. The result was a very stiff and sea-kindly boat that was and is capable of standing up to the rigors of the bay, a place that typically has 20-25 kts during most of the sailing season. When I first saw my boat, it had rainwater in it because someone had stolen the hatch cover. Other than that, and an illegal head, there was nothing structurally wrong with it, and since it was basically free, I decided to take on the project of restoring her. It was an expensive, valuable, and worthwhile experience. I replaced all the standing/running rigging, added electronics, bilge pump, and painted her inside and out. I fixed the "experiment" someone started on the bulb keel. I removed and replaced the keel bolts, basically anything that could be replaced. The only things that are original besides the hull/keel are the mast, boom, and rudder/tiller. It has an oversized rudder, which means she can stand on her ear and still drive straight with very little effort. Oh, and it came with a working, good shape 4-horse 2-stroke Evinrude that weighs only 35 pounds. I just found out that they go for $525 locally, because that size engine of that weight is very hard to find. I think I'll keep my "piece of ****" boat. Thank you kindly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:59:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: They're pieces of crap just like yours. You got room to talk? You have a piece of **** that someone was throwing away. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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That's a good project boat Jon.
I like all glass boats, since they are tough and easy to restore. Chances are that boat will out live you. Bart Jonathan Ganz wrote Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk... When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its time in several ways. My particular boat has sailed on the bay since 1965. She was overbuilt with fiberglass... they didn't really understand the strength of glass those days, so they overbuilt it just to be sure. The result was a very stiff and sea-kindly boat that was and is capable of standing up to the rigors of the bay, a place that typically has 20-25 kts during most of the sailing season. When I first saw my boat, it had rainwater in it because someone had stolen the hatch cover. Other than that, and an illegal head, there was nothing structurally wrong with it, and since it was basically free, I decided to take on the project of restoring her. It was an expensive, valuable, and worthwhile experience. I replaced all the standing/running rigging, added electronics, bilge pump, and painted her inside and out. I fixed the "experiment" someone started on the bulb keel. I removed and replaced the keel bolts, basically anything that could be replaced. The only things that are original besides the hull/keel are the mast, boom, and rudder/tiller. It has an oversized rudder, which means she can stand on her ear and still drive straight with very little effort. Oh, and it came with a working, good shape 4-horse 2-stroke Evinrude that weighs only 35 pounds. I just found out that they go for $525 locally, because that size engine of that weight is very hard to find. I think I'll keep my "piece of ****" boat. Thank you kindly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:59:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: They're pieces of crap just like yours. You got room to talk? You have a piece of **** that someone was throwing away. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message news:v0YAc.22401
I like all glass boats, since they are tough and easy to restore. Chances are that boat will out live you. We've talked about Community Boating in Boston, where I, as well as tens of thousands of others, learned to sail. The 30 15 foot Mercury's they purchased in 1952 are still in constant use. For those who have never been to Boston, when you see sailboats in TV shots of Boston, such as in "Cheers," you're probably looking at the Mercury's. www.community-boating.org |
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Good for you , Jon. Some people think that money doesth make the sailor.
-- Scotty S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk... When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its time in several ways. My particular boat has sailed on the bay since 1965. She was overbuilt with fiberglass... they didn't really understand the strength of glass those days, so they overbuilt it just to be sure. The result was a very stiff and sea-kindly boat that was and is capable of standing up to the rigors of the bay, a place that typically has 20-25 kts during most of the sailing season. When I first saw my boat, it had rainwater in it because someone had stolen the hatch cover. Other than that, and an illegal head, there was nothing structurally wrong with it, and since it was basically free, I decided to take on the project of restoring her. It was an expensive, valuable, and worthwhile experience. I replaced all the standing/running rigging, added electronics, bilge pump, and painted her inside and out. I fixed the "experiment" someone started on the bulb keel. I removed and replaced the keel bolts, basically anything that could be replaced. The only things that are original besides the hull/keel are the mast, boom, and rudder/tiller. It has an oversized rudder, which means she can stand on her ear and still drive straight with very little effort. Oh, and it came with a working, good shape 4-horse 2-stroke Evinrude that weighs only 35 pounds. I just found out that they go for $525 locally, because that size engine of that weight is very hard to find. I think I'll keep my "piece of ****" boat. Thank you kindly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:59:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: They're pieces of crap just like yours. You got room to talk? You have a piece of **** that someone was throwing away. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:55:25 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Point of order... giving away. I have plenty of room to talk... When the Cal 20 came out in the mid-60s it was ahead of its I deleted the rest of your crap without reading it. Any boat from the mid 60s is AN OLD PIECE OF ****. It's rotted away, and is worthless as a sailing vessel. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Any boat from the
mid 60s is AN OLD PIECE OF ****. Yeah...here's one of those POS boats from the 60's! http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/3/5/4/1135416_1.jpg I bet poor Horvath doesn't even know what it is! RB |
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I sailed up there Jeff. t is the great program. I learned on
Mercury's on the Houstonic River. I'm actually restoring three of the five I learned on in the late 60's. Our boats are getting new masts, booms, centerboards and hardware. I'll post some pictures when we are done. Someone in the club chain-sawed up one of the boats, when it was perfectly rebuildable, and could have layed outside for years until the time was right to bring it back. They had 51 Mercury's in Boston when I was there? What happened to the other 21? Bart Jeff Morris wrote in message ... "Bart Senior" wrote in message news:v0YAc.22401 I like all glass boats, since they are tough and easy to restore. Chances are that boat will out live you. We've talked about Community Boating in Boston, where I, as well as tens of thousands of others, learned to sail. The 30 15 foot Mercury's they purchased in 1952 are still in constant use. For those who have never been to Boston, when you see sailboats in TV shots of Boston, such as in "Cheers," you're probably looking at the Mercury's. www.community-boating.org |
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Any solid glass boat from the 60's will outlast us all.
Is that a Gallant 54? I almost bought one owned by one of the first women to solo circumnavigate. It had a good layout for a solo sailor, everything was up in the pilot house except the head. Bart Bobsprit wrote Any boat from the mid 60s is AN OLD PIECE OF ****. Yeah...here's one of those POS boats from the 60's! http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/3/5/4/1135416_1.jpg I bet poor Horvath doesn't even know what it is! RB |
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Is that a Gallant 54? I almost bought one owned by
one of the first women to solo circumnavigate. 1965 Pearson Countess Ketch, Alden design. Quite a boat. There's a sloop version at my club as well. Horvath bought a Hunter. To him a classic means a Hunter 25. Nuff said. RB |
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