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Joe June 15th 04 05:59 PM

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
You're not exaggerating, are you Joe?

Scotty


Not at all. When the decks were haze grey you could blister your feet
on the dog days of summer. You could touch a few exposed stringers and
they felt like radiators inside the cabin. I did not want white
because they show so much dirt ect.. Now I just scrub the decks more
often and enjoy the coolness.

As far as hull color goes I do not think it is as much of an issue.
Because of the angle of the sun. Cabin tops and decks need to be a
light color if your getting hot below. RedCloud was buildt in the
North Sea and was first painted all black to absorbe heat in the
winter I suppose. If it were painted all black here in Texas Im sure
it would explode ;0)

joe





"Joe" wrote in message
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DSK wrote in message

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Bart Senior wrote:
The boat was orginally black gelcoat, followed by royal blue,
then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler.

I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was
too hot inside.

Makes a bigger difference than people would believe.


Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have
haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I
decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually
cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day
I painted the decks white.

Joe





DSK


Joe June 15th 04 06:04 PM

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DSK wrote in message ...
John Cairns wrote:
I'll assume that was a serious question, so consider the following. The
first week or so out of Lauderdale the teak decks got so hot you couldn't
walk on 'em barefoot.


In NC in high summer our teak deck gets too hot to walk on. Even a cream
colored fiberglass deck will get uncomfortable hot. I like a little tint
in the deck coating to cut glare, but you can't overdo it unless you
want to cook.

A couple of our friends have full deck shades and say that they do a
marvelous keeping the boat cooler. Troublesome to stow when not in use,
though.


We have tropical canvas to cover the cabins. Usually put them up after
July 4th, they make a big difference. Also have canvas drain pipes on
them to collect rain. Perfect for the tropics. Mine lace to the rails.

Joe



Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe June 15th 04 06:09 PM

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message t...
How dark a grey were your decks, Joe? Mine are a mix of white
with light grey--like my topsides, boot and cove stripes.


Haze Gray, ever see a Navy Ship? Most are haze gray and underway.




I can only estimate the difference between the white topsides
and the old navy blue. With navy blue topsides, the sweat
poured off me like a water hose. The only time I have felt
hotter was pulling 3.5 negative gees in humid 98 degree weather
in a T-37.

With the white topsides and a fan or two, it is has been slightly
sweaty when I was working, and comfortable when I'm relaxing.
particularly, when the sun was not at its peak, the boat is now
very comfortable.


With white topsides and 3600 BTU's of AC's we keep cool. And luckly
the electricity is include with the slip, no meter!

Joe



Bart

Joe wrote
DSK wrote
Bart Senior wrote:


then navy blue. Now it is Caribbean white to keep it cooler.
I preferred the Navy blue it had when I bought it, but it was
too hot inside.

Makes a bigger difference than people would believe.


Make a big difference here in Texas. Being a X navy man I had to have
haze gray deck when I bought my boat. Once it got to hot to walk on I
decided to go with white. Now the AC's keep the boat cool and acually
cycle off once and a while. The temp inside dropped 20 degrees the day
I painted the decks white.

Joe


DSK


DSK June 15th 04 06:27 PM

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Bart Senior wrote:
I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England.

http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm

And I was pleased to see this!

ERICSON 46 72

Similar to this!

SWAN 47 72


Or the Express 37, or the J-35, or the Schock 35, or the Frers 38, or
the J-109, or the Lacoste 42, or the Soverel 39, or the Tartan 46...

You're in pretty good company. OTOH the Corel 45 rates somewhere in the
minusses, and that's a very roomy boat...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scott Vernon June 15th 04 10:17 PM

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"Joe" wrote

With white topsides and 3600 BTU's of AC's we keep cool. And luckly
the electricity is include with the slip, no meter!


No meter!??! How did you swing that deal? I've got some long extension
cords, would you mind?

Scotty



Horvath June 16th 04 12:40 AM

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:21:03 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap:

I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England.

http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm



CAL 20 282


Heh Heh Heh.

With a rating like that, it would take two hours just to leave the
marina.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz June 16th 04 08:25 AM

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It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually
make it back.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:21:03 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap:

I looked up the base PHRF ratings for New England.

http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm



CAL 20 282


Heh Heh Heh.

With a rating like that, it would take two hours just to leave the
marina.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Horvath June 16th 04 11:13 AM

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:25:44 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually
make it back.


Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"?
You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in
rainbow.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Bobsprit June 16th 04 11:32 AM

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Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"?
You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in
rainbow.


Horvath, in all seriousness, the Hunter marque is among the worst and garners
far less respect than Jonathan's Cal, which is certainly considered "classic
plastic. In the last 3 years Hunter has greatly improved quality control
matching Catalina and exceeding Beneteau, but earlier Hunter's are frowned on
by sailors and surveyors alike. If your Hunter is less than 3 years old, you
may have a reasonable low end boat. If not, you have my sympathy, but then you
should have done your homework before buying.

RB

Jonathan Ganz June 16th 04 03:53 PM

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So what you're saying is that not only are you stuipd but you're blind.

You're the gay boy. You keep mentioning it at every opportunity.

FYI, it's easy to call your boat crapola because of the "owner."

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:25:44 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It would still be faster than your hunter crapola, and I'd actually
make it back.


Heh Heh Heh. How can you possibly call anybody's boat, "crapola"?
You bought your gay POS at a garbage sale, then had it repainted in
rainbow.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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