"Wally" wrote in message
| I don't see how the notion that god created the universe can be arrived at
| by scientific means - how that can be an 'inescapable conclusion'. There
is
| no presentable, sharable evidence that supports the contention that god
| exists, or ever has. Without evidence for god, the argument's busted -
it's
| no more scientific than an untested hypothesis.

Wally..... I know for a fact that everytime you create any art..... it's
proof that a "God" exists.

You know that as well as I do...... don't dissect.... direct. The whole of
the entity is within you... not without you.

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:

Wally..... I know for a fact that everytime you create any art.....
it's proof that a "God" exists.

I think it all rather depends on what one means by "god". Having suggested
that the true nature of the universe is unknown, I could say that "god" is
just another word for "whatever is really going on - the hidden machinations
of the universe". Personally, I don't feel a need to call that god - I
prefer to call the wonder of the universe, the wonder of the universe. To
me, there are meanings for the word "god" that have a bunch of connotations
that I don't particularly agree with, like the all-seeing, all-powerful,
good guy creator - like some sort of super-human father figure. That stuff
steps a little too far towards man making god in his own image.


You know that as well as I do...... don't dissect.... direct. The
whole of the entity is within you... not without you.

I have never considered creating art to have anything to do with god. I will
say that my best efforts (in music rather than painting) happen when there
is no thought or plan. There have been times when I've been so involved in
listening and responding to a piece of music, that I've been completely
unaware that I was playing it while I was listening. I'm a conduit - the
tunes I 'write' are already there, and all I'm doing is making them
tangible. As for where or what 'there' is, I prefer 'unknown' to 'god'.


--
Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Unknown???.... that can be held to be "God like" at times......

I'm not preaching a philosophy Wally..... I don't know if there is a
superior being... I know there is a superior force. It envelops me and if I
allow it.... guides me as well. I'm only learning it's boundaries.... is it
"God"?? I don't know..... I do know it protects me if I pay attention and
read it correctly. I believe the tenants are basic..... do no harm, take
only what you require, explore your potential, Life is a gift.... have fun
with it!

Nothing serious.... unless you stray from the path. Then it becomes
exponential in travesty

I walked that line.... it's much easier to follow your natural instincts!

CM



"Wally" wrote in message
...
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| Wally..... I know for a fact that everytime you create any art.....
| it's proof that a "God" exists.
|
| I think it all rather depends on what one means by "god". Having suggested
| that the true nature of the universe is unknown, I could say that "god" is
| just another word for "whatever is really going on - the hidden
machinations
| of the universe". Personally, I don't feel a need to call that god - I
| prefer to call the wonder of the universe, the wonder of the universe. To
| me, there are meanings for the word "god" that have a bunch of
connotations
| that I don't particularly agree with, like the all-seeing, all-powerful,
| good guy creator - like some sort of super-human father figure. That stuff
| steps a little too far towards man making god in his own image.
|
|
| You know that as well as I do...... don't dissect.... direct. The
| whole of the entity is within you... not without you.
|
| I have never considered creating art to have anything to do with god. I
will
| say that my best efforts (in music rather than painting) happen when there
| is no thought or plan. There have been times when I've been so involved in
| listening and responding to a piece of music, that I've been completely
| unaware that I was playing it while I was listening. I'm a conduit - the
| tunes I 'write' are already there, and all I'm doing is making them
| tangible. As for where or what 'there' is, I prefer 'unknown' to 'god'.
|
|
| --
| Wally
| www.forthsailing.com
| www.wally.myby.co.uk
|
|