Bobsprit wrote:
How far did he travel from his mooring before he trimmed for the
beat?

We don't know, nor do we know the amount of weather helm he
experienced, nor do we know how many times he was hit by a gust and
fell off for a moment. Kinda changes things.

6 miles total - (3 out + 3 in) = 0

How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph wind?


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6 miles total - (3 out + 3 in) = 0


Since he's using a road map, instead of a chart, we can safely call the
distance an aprox. rather than an absolute.

RB

How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph wind?

I said "gusts" could also force him to fall off and it can easily happen when
he's not focusing or just messing with the course.
Wally, you're just wrong to suggest that you can define his course from data
given.

RB

Bobsprit wrote:
How much weather helm is he likely to get when beating in an 11mph
wind?

I said "gusts" could also force him to fall off and it can easily
happen when he's not focusing or just messing with the course.
Wally, you're just wrong to suggest that you can define his course
from data given.

He seemed to think it was okay - 6 miles total, a 3 mile beat outward, and
"of course" a 3 mile run home. He's clearly done 6-3=3. He didn't say it was
gusty, he didn't say he faffed about at the start before getting trimmed.
Why are you adding in factors that he hasn't mentioned?

How much weather helm would he have got if he was on a beat for 3 miles and
then got home on a 3 mile run?


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www.wally.myby.co.uk

Why are you adding in factors that he hasn't mentioned?

Because they are typical factors. Boats that sail close hauled also fall off
from time to time, especially when they are out for a daysail. Are you
suggesting that Ed was hard on the wind, eyes blazing as he went upwind as far
as possible?
Puh-lease.
Wally, you've been exposed as a simple and rather poor troll, trying to apply
exact math to someone casual comments about a daysail.
Shame on you. Launch your boat and you'll feel less bitter.

RB

Bobsprit wrote:

Because they are typical factors. Boats that sail close hauled also
fall off from time to time, especially when they are out for a
daysail. Are you suggesting that Ed was hard on the wind, eyes
blazing as he went upwind as far as possible?

I'll allow for some gusts, and I'll allow for the odd fall away or luff up
when the helm admires the view. Even allowing for these factors (which I
agree are typical), I'd still like to hear how much weather helm is typical
in an 11mph wind, such that a 3 mile beat, followed by a 3 mile run, will
take you back to your start point.

I don't *think* he said he was sailing a raft... ...maybe you think he was?


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www.wally.myby.co.uk

I'll allow for some gusts, and I'll allow for the odd fall away or luff up
when the helm admires the view. Even allowing for these factors (which I
agree are typical), I'd still like to hear how much weather helm is typical
in an 11mph wind, such that a 3 mile beat, followed by a 3 mile run, will
take you back to your start point.

If you'll allow that, then your point is moot.
Sorry. He could have been on a run.

RB

Bobsprit wrote:

If you'll allow that, then your point is moot.
Sorry. He could have been on a run.

He could have been, but is it likely, given typical weather helm and
steering errors?

How much weather helm is typical in an 11mph wind, Bob?


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Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk