"Joe" wrote in message
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1/2 your time motoring. I have a MSV and motor less...




Answer 1.

Of course you do. Liveaboards stay permanently tied to the dock.


Answer 2.

I've heard that the average sailboat spends 85% of its time underway with
the engine running.

A couple of weeks ago I spent a weekend aboard a much heavier boat than
Setanta. I was astonished to find that we needed the engine with 20 kts
of wind blowing from behind.

On Setanta, given the same conditions, we would have been stonking along at
about 8 kts under spinaker.

*IF* you spend less that 50% of the time with the engine running, then you
either sail in an area with fantastic breezes, or you may be overestimating
the time that you are running under sail alone.


Regards


Donal
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*IF* you spend less that 50% of the time with the engine running, then you
either sail in an area with fantastic breezes, or you may be overestimating
the time that you are running under sail alone.


Again, we run the engine to get clear of the breakwater and that's usually it.
If there is little wind, we sail slow and chat. If there is zero wind we drift.
Unless we need to get somewhere, we don't ruin things by using the engine.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote


Again, we run the engine to get clear of the breakwater .
If there is little wind, we motor slow and chat. If there is zero wind we
motor.
if we need to get somewhere, we ruin things by using the engine.

RB

do you motor when sailing below a certain speed, say 2 kts.?

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
om...

1/2 your time motoring. I have a MSV and motor less...




Answer 1.

Of course you do. Liveaboards stay permanently tied to the dock.


Answer 2.

I've heard that the average sailboat spends 85% of its time underway with
the engine running.

A couple of weeks ago I spent a weekend aboard a much heavier boat than
Setanta. I was astonished to find that we needed the engine with 20 kts
of wind blowing from behind.

On Setanta, given the same conditions, we would have been stonking along
at
about 8 kts under spinaker.

*IF* you spend less that 50% of the time with the engine running, then you
either sail in an area with fantastic breezes, or you may be
overestimating
the time that you are running under sail alone.


Regards


Donal
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do you motor when sailing below a certain speed, say 2 kts.?



Good lord. Just when I though Scotty Potti couldn't be any dumber.

RB

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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do you motor when sailing below a certain speed, say 2 kts.?

It depends.

If we are going to a marina that is only open for a few hours ( -3 HW +2 ),
then we will use the engine if we need to. The alternative would be a
seven hour wait in potentially rough water.

OTOH, if we are out in the Solent (my local area), then I am quite happy to
drift if the tide is carrying us in the right direction.

A typical scenario would be a weekend trip to St Vaast, in France. The
distance is 75 miles. The marina in St Vaast has a lock gate that opens
when the tide is 4.7m above chart datum (usually HW-3). Depending on the
wind, the trip can take between 10, and 19 hours. Our recent trip was taken
on a day when the lock was due to open a 18:00. So we departed at 05:00.
If we had arrived after 19:00, then we would not be able to go out to a
restaurant. (French time is an hour ahead, the French eat early, and there
is a long walk from the marina). You can see that we needed to maintain
about 5.5 kts.





Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote

I've heard that the average sailboat spends 85% of its time underway with
the engine running.

the opposite for me.



*IF* you spend less that 50% of the time with the engine running, then you
either sail in an area with fantastic breezes, or you may be
overestimating
the time that you are running under sail alone.

Honestly, Donut, I motor about 10%, but then, they do say the Chesapeake Bay
is the ''Greatest Sailing Area in the World''.

Scotty

hope I didn't ruin your troll, if that's what it was.

dave, the lite wind days of western LIS are typically end of July and early
August.

If so, it was a most unusual season. Having had a boat on CI for a number of
years, I can say with some confidence that the Western end of the Sound
ain't the place to sail from if you want wind regularly. There is usually
some part of the day when there's a small bit of wind, so maybe Bobsprit's
claim of few days with _no_ wind is literally true. But there's a lot of
time spent with sails slatting about. That's one of the reasons I moved my
boat to the Eastern end.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:06:51 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

Honestly, Donut, I motor about 10%, but then, they do say the Chesapeake Bay
is the ''Greatest Sailing Area in the World''.

But that's only in the channel. 90% of the bay is too shallow to sail
in.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Not enough, with mine about twice a month, others' boats, quite a bit.
Holder 20s.. 4 times a week, Yamaha 30... 3-4 times a month.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Now...stop the lying and posturing. Let's all be honest. How much do you
REALLY
sail your own boat. We sail Alien an average of 3 times a week and a bit
more
in the last months. Last summer we only managed time for 5 short trips,
the
longest being 5 days and the others only weekends.
It's not a competition folks. Some of you may be working hard and can't
manage
a lot of free time. I'm just curious after a conversation with a fellow
(he
owns a IP 35) who only sails 3 weeks out of the whole summer. He pays a
lot for
a boat he hardly uses, but it's worth it to him. Even if you own a low
cost
boat, did you ever calculate the cost vs. time actually spent aboard?

RB