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Okay folks... I've decided to not get trapped into that seasonal "Major Boat
Works" situation. Nope... this year I'm tending to the details. I'm
concentrating on the stuff that usually gets put off ..... you know the
score..." I'll have time to get to that after she's launched and wet"!!

Well not this year. No sir! No more xtra toys.

I've sanded the interior and applied a coat of satin tung oil over all the
teak work. I've cleaned the fabrics and the bilge is so clean it sparkles.
The engine has been serviced and all that remains is to replace the
alternator and batteries for a test fire up prior to launch. This week the
hull and topsides will get 3 coats of wax. All the metal has been polished
with a stainless cleaner. The blocks have been lubricated and the anchor
chain has been sitting in a bucket of WD40 for the last 6 months. The sheets
& halyards have been pulled, bagged and washed.

I launch on Saturday, May 15th...... and I have just been offered a
Supervisor's Position on a construction project.... 300 miles away. DAMN!

CM

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Capt. Mooron wrote:
Okay folks... I've decided to not get trapped into that seasonal "Major Boat
Works" situation.

Yeah, but you're lucky... your boat already has everything ;)



The engine has been serviced and all that remains is to replace the
alternator and batteries for a test fire up prior to launch.

You do this out of the water? How do you work the plumbng issues?


.... the anchor
chain has been sitting in a bucket of WD40 for the last 6 months.

Isn't it galvanized?


I launch on Saturday, May 15th......

You really really should consider moving south, man. We didn't pull our
boat at all last winter and even the wimpy clubs have been having races
since early March.

... and I have just been offered a
Supervisor's Position on a construction project.... 300 miles away. DAMN!

Well, you have to weigh your priorities... if you take it, you'll only
be missing what, three weeks sailing season anyway ;)

Glad to hear things are going so well. BTW have you seen anybody play
the Australian Bagpipes lately?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"DSK" wrote in message

| Yeah, but you're lucky... your boat already has everything ;)

Not according to the Boat Catalogues.... what a crop of new toys they have!

| The engine has been serviced and all that remains is to replace the
| alternator and batteries for a test fire up prior to launch.
|
| You do this out of the water? How do you work the plumbing issues?

Garden hose to a fitted "T" on the water intake hose at the filter trap.
Turn on the tap and voila. I run it this way for 20 minutes after haul-out
to flush any salt water in the system. I've seen too many people having
trouble starting their aux. after splash. Mine always starts at the first
push of the button ... every time... all the time.



| .... the anchor
| chain has been sitting in a bucket of WD40 for the last 6 months.
|
| Isn't it galvanized?

Yup..... So? That don't mean it can't rust! This treatment is good for
the season and keeps the chain looking like new. I put the whole pail on my
industrial grade burner and heat up the works rally good as well..... gets
the oil in the pores of the metal.


| I launch on Saturday, May 15th......
|
| You really really should consider moving south, man. We didn't pull our
| boat at all last winter and even the wimpy clubs have been having races
| since early March.

....and live in the USA... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa!!! No thanks! I enjoy
Freedom of Speech and a say as to who gets voted in.


| ... and I have just been offered a
| Supervisor's Position on a construction project.... 300 miles away.
DAMN!
|
| Well, you have to weigh your priorities... if you take it, you'll only
| be missing what, three weeks sailing season anyway ;)

If you count the weekends


|
| Glad to hear things are going so well. BTW have you seen anybody play
| the Australian Bagpipes lately?

Nah!..... Either they're making Cats quicker these days .... or I'm
slowin' down.... or the word got out !! ;-)

CM

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Capt. Mooron wrote:
.... Mine always starts at the first
push of the button ... every time... all the time.

Machinery knows when it's treated right. It is not susceptible to
flattery & BS... although I have seen certain types of machinery behave
like little children, best motivated by fear...


| Isn't it galvanized?

Yup..... So? That don't mean it can't rust!

Actually, it does. Galvanizing is only a surface treatment though and it
will crack or flake off eventually. It is a lot tougher than almost any
other kind of surface treatment, including most electroplating. Hmm,
maybe a chrome-moly plated anchor chain would be impervious...

.... This treatment is good for
the season and keeps the chain looking like new. I put the whole pail on my
industrial grade burner and heat up the works rally good as well..... gets
the oil in the pores of the metal.

Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm suspicious. If the
galvanizing is properly done there shouldn't be any pores in the metal.
But a water displacing oil should indeed help the chain last a long long
time... do you leave a slick when you anchor? ;)


| You really really should consider moving south, man. We didn't pull our
| boat at all last winter and even the wimpy clubs have been having races
| since early March.

...and live in the USA... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa!!! No thanks! I enjoy
Freedom of Speech and a say as to who gets voted in.

Hey, we get to vote too. Of course, it's up to the Bush Admin whether
our votes get counted or not. Actually the big problem is that voter
turnout down here is pathetic. Usually only 20 to 30 percent of the
voter bother. We need a good fascist dictatorship to shake people up and
make them appreciate democracy again!

It's flattering to be offered the job. The issue is always time versus
money. Can't offer any advice except to think carefully, you only get
one life (they say, I'm hoping to be reincarnated at least a few more
times).



| Glad to hear things are going so well. BTW have you seen anybody play
| the Australian Bagpipes lately?

Nah!..... Either they're making Cats quicker these days .... or I'm
slowin' down.... or the word got out !! ;-)

It's cruel & childish but I still laugh like hell whenever I think about
that.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Freedom? What about your whining about gun control?

Capt. Mooron wrote

...and live in the USA... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa!!! No thanks! I enjoy
Freedom of Speech and a say as to who gets voted in.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
.net...
| Freedom? What about your whining about gun control?

You misinterpreted.... it was a fair trade... pot for guns!

CM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

I've sanded the interior and applied a coat of satin tung oil over all the
teak work. I've cleaned the fabrics and the bilge is so clean it sparkles.

good girl, now go find a man to do the manly stuff.



SV

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
|
| I've sanded the interior and applied a coat of satin tung oil over all
the
| teak work. I've cleaned the fabrics and the bilge is so clean it
sparkles.
|
| good girl, now go find a man to do the manly stuff.

Well okay.... I'll fess up... I directed the operations.... it's not like
I did the manual labour.

CM

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yeah.....right.....sure........whatever. I plan to paint boot and cove
stripe tomorrow and then beg the yard guys to launch me this week.

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
|
| I've sanded the interior and applied a coat of satin tung oil over all
the
| teak work. I've cleaned the fabrics and the bilge is so clean it
sparkles.
|
| good girl, now go find a man to do the manly stuff.

Well okay.... I'll fess up... I directed the operations.... it's not
like
I did the manual labour.

CM

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I plan to paint boot and cove
stripe tomorrow and then beg the yard guys to launch me this week.

Holy cripes. What a pinhead.


RB

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| yeah.....right.....sure........whatever. I plan to paint boot and cove
| stripe tomorrow and then beg the yard guys to launch me this week.

What are you using for paint? Are you going to airbrush it or roll it?

I'm mustering crew for tomorrow.... have to do the antifouling and another
coat on the exterior woodwork.

I also just got a free Lifesling, drogue, 2 new halyards, 2 new sheets, a
spare alternator and 2 new jack lines with harnesses.

CM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

What are you using for paint? Are you going to airbrush it or roll it?

alkyd enamel. Roll and tip w/brush. I'll take a pic if it turns out
nice.


I'm mustering crew for tomorrow.... have to do the antifouling and
another
coat on the exterior woodwork.

I also just got a free Lifesling, drogue, 2 new halyards, 2 new sheets, a
spare alternator and 2 new jack lines with harnesses.


did you get them free like bob gets his junk for free?

BTW, I've got new fiddle blocks and sheets for the main. New sheets for
genny too. I paid for mine.

Scotty

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| did you get them free like bob gets his junk for free?

No No No.....

A buddy sold his boat and is buying a much larger vessel .... I helped him
prep it for the sale which included removing all the gear aboard. He gave me
this stuff as a way of saying thanx.....


|
| BTW, I've got new fiddle blocks and sheets for the main. New sheets for
| genny too. I paid for mine.
|

Kewl.... I can't afford to pay so the "gifts" were well appreciated. I
really needed the new halyards.

CM

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I should probably replace my halyards as well, I think they're the
originals.

SV

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| did you get them free like bob gets his junk for free?

No No No.....

A buddy sold his boat and is buying a much larger vessel .... I helped
him
prep it for the sale which included removing all the gear aboard. He gave
me
this stuff as a way of saying thanx.....


|
| BTW, I've got new fiddle blocks and sheets for the main. New sheets for
| genny too. I paid for mine.
|

Kewl.... I can't afford to pay so the "gifts" were well appreciated. I
really needed the new halyards.

CM

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I should probably replace my halyards as well, I think they're the
originals.


You should replace the whole wreck of a boat. Original halyards? What an unsafe
idiot.

RB

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Scott said:
then beg the yard guys to launch me this week.

You have to beg? All we had to do was walk up to the desk and ask Kathleen
to schedule us in this weel....but then, we pay our bills on
time....Saturday was MYC Work Day...rained in the morning but they were
launching boats off the crane at the rate of 1 every 10 minutes or so...very
organized...I was assigned to the gardening crew and cut down ornamental
grass and raked out last years crud from under the roses, etc while Mr.
Sail's hung a door on the dumpster site that had been yanked off last
year...and we managed to get a place for the dinghy on the outside dock so
we don't have to launch it from the Butterfly Beach and then have to row
around the whole club to get to the mooring field. And we did the wax on/wax
off thing and touched up some paint in a few places....
--
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I should probably replace my halyards as well, I think they're the
| originals.
|
|
| You should replace the whole wreck of a boat. Original halyards? What an
unsafe
| idiot.

Well jeez louise Bob..... mine would still be the original halyards this
season if I hadn't gotten these new ones for free. They were spares he had
on his boat for the trip.

I can see replacing running rigging often on a race boat..... but on a
cruiser, I don't see the need to replace stuff that isn't worn to a point of
possible failure. I'm certain that like me..... Scott inspects his halyards
and sheets every season and performs the maintenance to keep them in good
operating condition.

BTW.... how many halyards do you have on Alien??

CM

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then beg the yard guys to launch me this week.

You have to beg?

Scotty Potti commands respect wherever he goes.

RB

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Well jeez louise Bob..... mine would still be the original halyards this
season if I hadn't gotten these new ones for free. They were spares he had
on his boat for the trip.

Running rigging should be replaced after 8 to 10 years. It's not expensive and
easy to do. I've replaced all of my running rigging and most of the standing.
Not a huge expense and less worry. I bet Scotty Potti's standing rigging is
original as well.

RB

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BTW.... how many halyards do you have on Alien??

5. Can you name them?

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Running rigging should be replaced after 8 to 10 years. It's not expensive
and
| easy to do. I've replaced all of my running rigging and most of the
standing.
| Not a huge expense and less worry. I bet Scotty Potti's standing rigging
is
| original as well.

WOW.... you replaced your standing rigging?? Mine's original... but my
buddy who does rigging for a living inspected it and said it was in fine
shape. I pull the mast every season [mostly] and the swaged ends are placed
in plastic bags hung to prevent draining to the turnbuckles.

I wonder how much it would cost to replace the standing rigging on
Overproof.....

CM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| BTW.... how many halyards do you have on Alien??
|
| 5. Can you name them?

WOW... you have 5 sheaves on your masthead?? I only have 4 halyards.....
but I can rig and run 6 on my mast...all internal. Hey... maybe I'll use my
old main and jib halyard to run all 6 this year. Then again all my jibs are
hank ons so the feasibility of running two jibs on one forestay exist.

I carry 2 main halyards and 2 jib halyards.... one of which doubles as a
spinnaker halyard.

I thought you had roller furling? If so.... I'd be hard pressed to figure
why you have 5 halyards... unless 3 of them are never used. I've never seen
a photo of Alien with a chute.... or a storm trysail rigged.

CM

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WOW.... you replaced your standing rigging?? Mine's original... but my
buddy who does rigging for a living inspected it and said it was in fine
shape.

I was lucky in that Alien came with new rigging. All I had to do was install
it. I replaced the running rigging over the last two seasons. Only the spin
halyard is original. I flew the spin maybe 5 or 6 times last season, but I'll
replace it this season. I had a rigging guy go aloft this season to check
everything. Again, it's cheap insurance.
Replacing the running rigging is easier on the hands (new stuff is great!),
which could be key in certain situations. It also looks better. Either one is
reason enough. I'm replacing my mainsheet tomorrow with an oversized line to
see how that works.

RB

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I wonder how much it would cost to replace the standing rigging on
Overproof.....

If you know someone who will cut you a break, figure anywhere from 1K on up. A
Cal 29 near me just did his for just under 2K.

RB

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Roller furling still has a halyard - how else would it get up there? I have
main, jib and spinnaker, plus a spare messenger on a sheave, plus a flag
halyard. In a pinch, the topping lift could be used as a halyard.




"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| BTW.... how many halyards do you have on Alien??
|
| 5. Can you name them?

WOW... you have 5 sheaves on your masthead?? I only have 4 halyards.....
but I can rig and run 6 on my mast...all internal. Hey... maybe I'll use my
old main and jib halyard to run all 6 this year. Then again all my jibs are
hank ons so the feasibility of running two jibs on one forestay exist.

I carry 2 main halyards and 2 jib halyards.... one of which doubles as a
spinnaker halyard.

I thought you had roller furling? If so.... I'd be hard pressed to figure
why you have 5 halyards... unless 3 of them are never used. I've never seen
a photo of Alien with a chute.... or a storm trysail rigged.

CM

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I thought you had roller furling? If so.... I'd be hard pressed to figure
why you have 5 halyards... unless 3 of them are never used. I've never seen
a photo of Alien with a chute.... or a storm trysail rigged.

Two flag, three on the masthead!

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/aspin.jpg

That's actually the 1st time we flew the spin and it was just about 2 knots of
air.

RB

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In a pinch, the topping lift could be used as a halyard.


Good point. And technically the topping lift IS a halyard.

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I wonder how much it would cost to replace the standing rigging on
| Overproof.....
|
| If you know someone who will cut you a break, figure anywhere from 1K on
up. A
| Cal 29 near me just did his for just under 2K.

I just checked with my buddy who had all the standing rigging replaced on
his Bayfield 29.... it cost him over 2.5 K. Mind you his rigging is
smaller than mine. What are you using on your boat?

CM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
| I was lucky in that Alien came with new rigging. All I had to do was
install
| it. I replaced the running rigging over the last two seasons. Only the
spin
| halyard is original. I flew the spin maybe 5 or 6 times last season, but
I'll
| replace it this season. I had a rigging guy go aloft this season to check
| everything. Again, it's cheap insurance.

You had brand new standing rigging inspected? Man... that costs money up
here.It's a C-note service call.


| Replacing the running rigging is easier on the hands (new stuff is
great!),
| which could be key in certain situations. It also looks better. Either one
is
| reason enough. I'm replacing my mainsheet tomorrow with an oversized line
to
| see how that works.

I've seen people do that [oversize].... never with any benefit. Also I'm
not sure if I concur with your premise that new rope is easier on the hands
since very little "handling" is done on the final tensioning with a winch
and tailing.

BTW... what are your 5 halyards used for?

CM

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I just checked with my buddy who had all the standing rigging replaced on
his Bayfield 29.... it cost him over 2.5 K. Mind you his rigging is
smaller than mine. What are you using on your boat?

I have rod rigging. I replaced it all except the forstay, which I may do this
season. It would have been very pricey if it didn't come with the boat and some
folks will just go to wire. I'm happy with the rod rigging though...very nice
to grab on to!
2.5 sounds high to me. A lot also depends on replacing the rigging inclusive of
all fittings and turnbuckles of course.

RB

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You had brand new standing rigging inspected? Man... that costs money up
here.It's a C-note service call.

I had the fittings inspected and it cost me nothing. The fellow who does the
work for my yard is a close friend. Of course, I had to help him install and
adjust a knotmeter last week.

RB

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OzOne wrote in message
| 5's easy, even with a furler you need another jib halyard but it all
| gets a little cluttered on a non race boat or even a racer that's
| being used on a cruise.
| Most would mouse out the spares and keep then below out of the UVs.

I concur Ozzy.... but I only have the boat in for half the year. UV damage
isn't a big issue in these latitudes. I can't really see the need for more
than 4 halyards on a conventional masthead sloop configuration. I do have a
roll of braid on board in a bucket that can be jury rigged to replace a
halyard or sheet at sea if needed.

CM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| Replacing the running rigging is easier on the hands (new stuff is
great!),
| which could be key in certain situations. It also looks better. Either one
is
| reason enough. I'm replacing my mainsheet tomorrow with an oversized line
to
| see how that works.

I've seen people do that [oversize].... never with any benefit. Also I'm
not sure if I concur with your premise that new rope is easier on the hands
since very little "handling" is done on the final tensioning with a winch
and tailing.


On my Nonsuch I replaced the mainsheet with oversized single braid - very soft
on the hands. Since a Nonsuch is often sailed more like a dinghy, and the
amount of line you have to haul in to go from dead downwind to close hauled is
huge (about 70 feet) it was very nice. However, on the catamaran it would be
wasted.

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| I have rod rigging. I replaced it all except the forstay, which I may do
this
| season. It would have been very pricey if it didn't come with the boat and
some
| folks will just go to wire. I'm happy with the rod rigging though...very
nice
| to grab on to!

The jury is still out for me on rod rigging...... I think it's the tendency
to immediate failure without forecast that puts me off. I run 1/4 inch
wire... I believe it's 19 strand.


| 2.5 sounds high to me. A lot also depends on replacing the rigging
inclusive of
| all fittings and turnbuckles of course.

Well...... if you replace the wire without the associated hardware... that
might not be interpreted as sound reasoning. Have you priced rod lately???

CM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Two flag, three on the masthead!

Really now Bob... I don't actually count my spreader halyards!! ;-)

|
| http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/aspin.jpg
|
| That's actually the 1st time we flew the spin and it was just about 2
knots of
| air.

What's that about a one ounce? Do you run a snuffer with that?

CM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| In a pinch, the topping lift could be used as a halyard.
|
|
| Good point. And technically the topping lift IS a halyard.

Not just technically but in fact it is a halyard. My topping lift usually
sees use to keep the boom up when dousing canvas but it is rigged to run the
storm trysail as well.

CM

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Also I'm
not sure if I concur with your premise that new rope is easier on the hands
since very little "handling" is done on the final tensioning with a winch
and tailing.

Jib sheets get a lot of use and I only use the handles when it's really windy.
I may actually get a heavier vang line, which also get's pulled a lot without
the winch.

RB

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Well...... if you replace the wire without the associated hardware... that
might not be interpreted as sound reasoning. Have you priced rod lately???

I think a lot folks just swap out the wire, after they carefully check the
turnbuckles. I haven't priced rod, but I'd expect a fair amount of sticker
shock.

RB

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| That's actually the 1st time we flew the spin and it was just about 2
knots of
| air.

What's that about a one ounce? Do you run a snuffer with that?

It came with a snuffer, but we don't use it. It's an old UK snuffer and it's a
bit ungainly. I don't know the cloth weight of the chute. It came with the boat
and UK inspected it and felt it had never been used. We usually fly it without
a pole using a Spinaker guy or UK's version.

RB

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Not just technically but in fact it is a halyard. My topping lift usually
sees use to keep the boom up when dousing canvas but it is rigged to run the
storm trysail as well.

How about the line for my lazy jacks...is that a halyard? It does "lift" them.

RB