"Bart Senior" wrote in message .net...
It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.


Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe




Bart Senior

Icarus wrote

Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:

"Bart Senior" wrote in message .net...

It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe





Bart Senior

Icarus wrote


Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

Negative, Nav. The U.S.S. Constitution doesn't have a motor, and when that shot
was taken she was free of her tow line, sailing on her own. Ten years ago she
was in dry dock for a long planned restoration. It was intended to be only
limited work, but after an inspection it was decided to do a full restoration.
However, it would be unfair to say it "had nearly sunk from neglect," since the
hull was relatively sound.



"Navigator" wrote in message
...
You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
.net...

It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe





Bart Senior

Icarus wrote


Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

No it wasn't. It was splitting open like a rotten egg and was being
braced by steel bands with fire pumps running 24/7. I was there -I
walked past her every day...

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

Negative, Nav. The U.S.S. Constitution doesn't have a motor, and when that shot
was taken she was free of her tow line, sailing on her own. Ten years ago she
was in dry dock for a long planned restoration. It was intended to be only
limited work, but after an inspection it was decided to do a full restoration.
However, it would be unfair to say it "had nearly sunk from neglect," since the
hull was relatively sound.



"Navigator" wrote in message
...

You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message

.net...

It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe






Bart Senior

Icarus wrote



Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

Wow, a 200 year old wooden ship with pumps running! What are the odds?



"Navigator" wrote in message
...
No it wasn't. It was splitting open like a rotten egg and was being
braced by steel bands with fire pumps running 24/7. I was there -I
walked past her every day...

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

Negative, Nav. The U.S.S. Constitution doesn't have a motor, and when that
shot
was taken she was free of her tow line, sailing on her own. Ten years ago
she
was in dry dock for a long planned restoration. It was intended to be only
limited work, but after an inspection it was decided to do a full
restoration.
However, it would be unfair to say it "had nearly sunk from neglect," since
the
hull was relatively sound.



"Navigator" wrote in message
...

You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message

.net...

It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe






Bart Senior

Icarus wrote



Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Wow, a 200 year old wooden ship with pumps running! What are the odds?



He's just jelious Jeff.

Joe



"Navigator" wrote in message
...
No it wasn't. It was splitting open like a rotten egg and was being
braced by steel bands with fire pumps running 24/7. I was there -I
walked past her every day...

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

Negative, Nav. The U.S.S. Constitution doesn't have a motor, and when that
shot
was taken she was free of her tow line, sailing on her own. Ten years ago
she
was in dry dock for a long planned restoration. It was intended to be only
limited work, but after an inspection it was decided to do a full
restoration.
However, it would be unfair to say it "had nearly sunk from neglect," since
the
hull was relatively sound.



"Navigator" wrote in message
...

You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message

.net...

It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe






Bart Senior

Icarus wrote



Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

Not just pumps -fire pumps! And steel belts to stop her splitting open.
At the time I wrote to the mayor pointing how appalling her state was
and questioned how such a rich country not afford to maintain it's few
historical relics and connection founding history. It seemed that the
explanation resided in a lack of clear lines of responsibility between
state and federal for historical items. Meanwhile she just decayed more
and more rapidly.

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

Wow, a 200 year old wooden ship with pumps running! What are the odds?



"Navigator" wrote in message
...

No it wasn't. It was splitting open like a rotten egg and was being
braced by steel bands with fire pumps running 24/7. I was there -I
walked past her every day...

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:


Negative, Nav. The U.S.S. Constitution doesn't have a motor, and when that

shot

was taken she was free of her tow line, sailing on her own. Ten years ago

she

was in dry dock for a long planned restoration. It was intended to be only
limited work, but after an inspection it was decided to do a full

restoration.

However, it would be unfair to say it "had nearly sunk from neglect," since

the

hull was relatively sound.



"Navigator" wrote in message
...


You do know she's motoring? 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Cheers

Joe wrote:



"Bart Senior" wrote in message

.cv.net...


It's one of those trailer sailors, that you don't dare take out on the
water.

Nelson, if he was alive, would be sad to see this glorious vessel
unfit for the sea.



Unfit for sea ya say Bart!
I thought the Brit's had pride in Englands naval past.

It's always nice to see ol Ironsides offsho
http://www.sheriff.co.wise.tx.us/cuf.../ironsides.jpg

She's clearly cared for properly, still a US Navy ship of the line.

Joe







Bart Senior

Icarus wrote




Hi

Have a look at these great pictures of Nelsons Flagship "Victory" at
Portsmouth, England.

Comments welcome.

http://y2u.co.uk/&002_Images/Victory%20Nelson%2001.htm

Navigator wrote:
You do know she's motoring?

You're showing your ignorance yet again, Navvie.

The USS Constitution does not have an engine.


... 10 years ago she had nearly sunk from neglect.

Actually, in 1994 she was in the middle of a rather expensive refit.

DSK

DSK wrote:

Navigator wrote:

You do know she's motoring?


You're showing your ignorance yet again, Navvie.

The USS Constitution does not have an engine.


No kidding? I guess that means they won't need your 'sailing' expertise.
But the engine is on another boat that always shadows her.


Cheers

"Navigator" wrote in message
...


DSK wrote:

Navigator wrote:

You do know she's motoring?


You're showing your ignorance yet again, Navvie.

The USS Constitution does not have an engine.


No kidding? I guess that means they won't need your 'sailing' expertise.
But the engine is on another boat that always shadows her.


Dead wrong, nav. I was there. She was free of her tow lines. Admittedly, it
was the first time in over 100 years, and may be the last, but she was sailing
on here own, without a tow, for about an hour.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../sailsked.html

http://www.ecnnews.com/const/ironside.htm