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Capt. Mooron wrote: Jim-Bo.... please stop this insanity! A quick look at any Mac will reveal the hardware suitable for a Laser 16 or Optimus class. The hull oilcans at the touch of a finger. Leaning out and holding the shroud causes the boat to tip almost to a swamping level. The sails are cheap and the rigging is frail. The drop keel sticks and frequently requires to be dropped by slinging a loop of rope under the hull ....dragging it forward to catch on the exposed portion of the keel to effect a complete drop. The boat is not safe Jim..... that's all I can tell you. I you wish to live in ignorance of the majority of the sailing community's advise... then be prepared to deal with the consequences. In so far as "racing" red Cloud.... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa..... Joe will be on the horizon before you even get that turtle trimmed to actually catch wind. CM In other words, you can't back up your statements. - Is that what you are saying, Capt? You have no evidence, no proof, no statistics suggesting that the Macs are falling apart becasue of "cheap sails and frail rigging," or that Mac owners are being stranded at sea, or being lost at sea, because of poor build quality. You can bluster and growl and post Mac-bashing notes, and post antecdotes, but you have nothing substantive to back up your assertions. And the reason you have no answer is ....because the Mac rigging and sails AREN'T falling apart, and because Mac owners AREN'T being lost at sea, and because Macs are returning to their home ports with their crew safe and sound, and because the Mac standing rigging and running rigging is doing its job, despite the fact that it doesn't look like the rigging on your boat. (The Mac rigging is designed for a 3,000 pound boat with 300 sq. feet of sail, and it is entirely suitable for that application.) It's time to put up or shut up, Capt. Or are you going to run away and hide and ignore the quesions again? (And don't try to avoid the issue by posting more anecdotes and slurs.) Jim "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... | | | Capt. Mooron wrote: | | "Jim Cate" wrote in message | | | In other words, can you back up your (libelous) remarks? | | Yes.... | | CM | | Really? Then let's see your statistics Capt. If, as you say, the Mac 26 | is only a "cheap plastic piece of ****" that is "dangerously under | rigged," then there must be hundreds of them that are falling apart | every year, right? And since MacGregor has sold over 30,000 boats, | there must be at least 5,000 of them in which the rigging has come apart | in a moderate wind, or in which the boat has simply self-destructed and | sunk. - Right? If it's dangerously under rigged, the rigging must be | coming apart every time they go out in moderate winds. | | Where's your stats on all those Macs that are falling apart because they | are "cheap plastic pieces of ****" and | "dangerously under rigged." - Give us some hard evidence without the | usual antecdotes, Mooron. | | Put up or shut up. | | Jim | | |
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