MacBoy,

Actually, given your lack of sophistication, I'm not shocked that
you would like they're looks.

And, FYI, if you don't think I have a valid point about the Mac
being butt-ugly, then why are you so worked up about it??

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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katysails wrote:

Jim asked:
What education or degrees do you have that relate to aesthetics?

Actually, I did take some art courses, and I've visited art museums in
many countries and observed the design of lots of boats over the years.
But if you read my note carefully, I didn't actually claim to be an
expert in aesthetics. In fact, I didn't say anything about the good
looks of the new Mac, since it's all very subjective, and in the eye of
the beholder anyway, as you say. (It's not surprising that a klutz like
Johnathan wouldn't be capable of appreciating it.)

Actually, all I did was question Johnathan as to why anyone should
respect HIS opinions regarding boat design or aesthetics.

Jim



Give me a break. Now you are being absolutely ludicrous. Aesthetics is
in
the eye of the beholder...and that includes art. There is no degree
that
teaches you that. Aesthetics come from experience, from knowing what
works,
what is practical, what is beautifful. Do you see any of the top boat
designers designing sailboats that look like Macs? NO! I'd venture Bob
Perry would gag. I'd say Buddy Melges would have a stroke. The French
designers would spit on you. Maybe you'd find someone in your court
from
the old Coronado/Irwin camps....but probably not. You are buying a
butt-ugly, unaesthetic boat that is neither fish nor foul but a
hermaphrodite. And like most hermaphrodites, it is impotent.

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy,

Actually, given your lack of sophistication, I'm not shocked that
you would like they're looks.

And, FYI, if you don't think I have a valid point about the Mac
being butt-ugly, then why are you so worked up about it??


Actually, I'm not. But from prior experience in discussions such as
this, I have learned that when opinionated morons like you don't get a
response, even to asinine statements like your comments about the Mac26M
appearance, they jump up and down and claim they have achieved a great
victory. Unfortunately, that's the way liars like you play the game.

Jim

It's pretty clear you are. You claim lots of things. So far, all we
see are lies. I'm certainly opinionated, but you win on the moron
issue. The Macs are butt-ugly. None with any sense of taste or
experience would go near them. Fact is a fact.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy,

Actually, given your lack of sophistication, I'm not shocked that
you would like they're looks.

And, FYI, if you don't think I have a valid point about the Mac
being butt-ugly, then why are you so worked up about it??


Actually, I'm not. But from prior experience in discussions such as
this, I have learned that when opinionated morons like you don't get a
response, even to asinine statements like your comments about the Mac26M
appearance, they jump up and down and claim they have achieved a great
victory. Unfortunately, that's the way liars like you play the game.

Jim