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N1EE April 17th 04 03:40 AM

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Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

I figure Bob/Jax won't show, even though they
are somewhat local.

Now, Scotty you aren't lame, and not too far away.

Want to go for a sail? The wind is awesome right
now. Bring your foul weather gear.

Today it was perfect, but I was busy fairing the
big boat. Next step there is two or three days of
sanding. I'd rather sail. Who wants to go?

Bart

Scott Vernon April 17th 04 04:15 AM

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Thanks for the invite, I pass by on I95 once in a while, but right now I'm
busy trying to get my boat ready and back in the water.

Scotty


"N1EE" wrote in message
m...
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

I figure Bob/Jax won't show, even though they
are somewhat local.

Now, Scotty you aren't lame, and not too far away.

Want to go for a sail? The wind is awesome right
now. Bring your foul weather gear.

Today it was perfect, but I was busy fairing the
big boat. Next step there is two or three days of
sanding. I'd rather sail. Who wants to go?

Bart



Jonathan Ganz April 17th 04 04:27 AM

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If I'm ever out that way...

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"N1EE" wrote in message
m...
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

I figure Bob/Jax won't show, even though they
are somewhat local.

Now, Scotty you aren't lame, and not too far away.

Want to go for a sail? The wind is awesome right
now. Bring your foul weather gear.

Today it was perfect, but I was busy fairing the
big boat. Next step there is two or three days of
sanding. I'd rather sail. Who wants to go?

Bart




Scott Vernon April 17th 04 04:34 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
If I'm ever out that way...


give us a warning.


Jonathan Ganz April 17th 04 04:47 AM

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Why would I want to do that???

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
If I'm ever out that way...


give us a warning.




katysails April 17th 04 02:19 PM

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If I wasn't leaving for Florida on Tuesday, I'd fly right out, yesiree....

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Scott Vernon April 17th 04 03:38 PM

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Your just going down to check things out, right? Not definite yet?

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
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If I wasn't leaving for Florida on Tuesday, I'd fly right out, yesiree....

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




Scott Vernon April 17th 04 03:40 PM

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Wassamatter billy, you didn't get an invite? Don't you live in CT? :o

Scotty

wrote


Clearly you've mistaken alt.sailing.asa for a gay bar.

BB



Thom Stewart April 17th 04 04:57 PM

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Wish I was closer. Often thought the Etchell was the perfect sailboat
for the 'Sound.

Thanks for the offer.

Ole Thom


katysails April 17th 04 05:41 PM

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Scotty asked:
Your just going down to check things out, right? Not definite yet?

We've got job interviews scheduled.
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Scott Vernon April 17th 04 07:06 PM

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Lisa's been sending out resumes the last 2 weeks.

Good luck!

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scotty asked:
Your just going down to check things out, right? Not definite yet?

We've got job interviews scheduled.
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




DSK April 17th 04 08:26 PM

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N1EE wrote:
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.


OK... I have relatives there so it is a distinct possibility...


Want to go for a sail? The wind is awesome right
now. Bring your foul weather gear.


The wind has been awesome here too. Not too cold either.


Today it was perfect, but I was busy fairing the
big boat. Next step there is two or three days of
sanding. I'd rather sail. Who wants to go?


You should make people pay for their rides by doing some sanding ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


katysails April 17th 04 10:03 PM

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Scotty wished:
Good luck!

Thanks.
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



John Cairns April 18th 04 12:42 AM

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"N1EE" wrote in message
m...
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

I figure Bob/Jax won't show, even though they
are somewhat local.

Now, Scotty you aren't lame, and not too far away.

Want to go for a sail? The wind is awesome right
now. Bring your foul weather gear.

Today it was perfect, but I was busy fairing the
big boat. Next step there is two or three days of
sanding. I'd rather sail. Who wants to go?

Bart


Long way to drive, but who knows, maybe I can take a little road trip with
the kid when I get back, if the wife doesn't mind.
Always wanted to try dinghy sailing.
John Cairns



N1EE April 18th 04 12:48 AM

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I need to get out there and visit you Thom. You
live in a great place for sailing.

Bart



(Thom Stewart) wrote

Wish I was closer. Often thought the Etchell was the perfect sailboat
for the 'Sound.

Thanks for the offer.

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon April 18th 04 02:08 AM

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Wha? You can't sail a dinghy?


wrote

Bart's worst nightmare would be me taking him up on his invitation. I

don't
swing that way.




Jonathan Ganz April 18th 04 04:59 AM

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No. He's gay I guess.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Wha? You can't sail a dinghy?


wrote

Bart's worst nightmare would be me taking him up on his invitation. I

don't
swing that way.






SAIL LOCO April 18th 04 05:20 AM

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Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

****, it's still cold up there. If you can't wear shorts it ain't worth going.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Scott Vernon April 18th 04 04:05 PM

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You can wear shorts today. You going?

Scotty

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.

****, it's still cold up there. If you can't wear shorts it ain't worth

going.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"



N1EE April 18th 04 04:11 PM

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I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold. The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast. If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?

Where do your relatives live?

Do you have your traweler in the water yet? What sort
of projects do you have planned for it this year?

Bart

DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:
Who wants to visit Connecticut for a sail on
my Etchells? I guarantee a fun ride.


OK... I have relatives there so it is a distinct possibility...


DSK April 18th 04 05:07 PM

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N1EE wrote:
I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold.


We've had a series of cold fronts... no foolin' it got below freezing
several times. Day before yesterday it became summer in about 1/2
hour... cloudy & windy & cool to impossibly sunny & 80+ degrees. What
happened to spring? I blame Bush & Rumsfeld of course ;)

... The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast.


Good idea. I'd probably consider wearing a wet suit.
.... If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?


From what I've read & seen, it's hard to be certain but it's a big
risk. Like almost everything in nature, hypothermia casualty rate
follows a bell curve. Some people will die very quickly, some will be
all but impervious. I have personally rescued a young & very fit person
from water that was a little below 40 degrees when he slipped and fell
in... about knee deep but he could not get up and was not breathing on
his own when we dragged him ashore. He was knocked out almost instantly.


Where do your relatives live?


Ridgefield, Norwalk, Groton. My family is all Yankees except for me!


Do you have your traweler in the water yet? What sort
of projects do you have planned for it this year?


Shucks, we never hauled it! We just got back from a cruise down to
Charleston SC. We saw a LOT of snowbird traffic on the ICW, mostly
sailboats that would have been better suited to "outside" transits IMHO.

We did take the time to do some exploring, made the side trip up the
beautiful Waccamaw River to Conway SC. Went over to Bald Head Island
(Cape Fear NC) and bicycled around.

Projects for this year are putting in a bigger battery bank, a windlass,
maybe a fuel polishing/booster pump. Finishing the dinghy! And of
course the usual fix-up & maintenance, such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted and keeping up all the varnish.

In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jonathan Ganz April 18th 04 06:44 PM

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Many people go into cardiac arrest and don't get a chance to
have hypothermia.

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
N1EE wrote:
I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold.


We've had a series of cold fronts... no foolin' it got below freezing
several times. Day before yesterday it became summer in about 1/2
hour... cloudy & windy & cool to impossibly sunny & 80+ degrees. What
happened to spring? I blame Bush & Rumsfeld of course ;)

... The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast.


Good idea. I'd probably consider wearing a wet suit.
.... If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?


From what I've read & seen, it's hard to be certain but it's a big
risk. Like almost everything in nature, hypothermia casualty rate
follows a bell curve. Some people will die very quickly, some will be
all but impervious. I have personally rescued a young & very fit person
from water that was a little below 40 degrees when he slipped and fell
in... about knee deep but he could not get up and was not breathing on
his own when we dragged him ashore. He was knocked out almost instantly.


Where do your relatives live?


Ridgefield, Norwalk, Groton. My family is all Yankees except for me!


Do you have your traweler in the water yet? What sort
of projects do you have planned for it this year?


Shucks, we never hauled it! We just got back from a cruise down to
Charleston SC. We saw a LOT of snowbird traffic on the ICW, mostly
sailboats that would have been better suited to "outside" transits IMHO.

We did take the time to do some exploring, made the side trip up the
beautiful Waccamaw River to Conway SC. Went over to Bald Head Island
(Cape Fear NC) and bicycled around.

Projects for this year are putting in a bigger battery bank, a windlass,
maybe a fuel polishing/booster pump. Finishing the dinghy! And of
course the usual fix-up & maintenance, such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted and keeping up all the varnish.

In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Donal April 18th 04 10:20 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?

Regards


Donal
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Navigator April 18th 04 10:40 PM

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DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?

Cheers MC


Scott Vernon April 18th 04 10:49 PM

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did I miss that story?

SV

"DSK" wrote
such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted




Navigator April 18th 04 11:10 PM

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Swimming around a capsized boat will dramatically reduce the time to
unconsiousness. In such a situation you might have less than 10 mins in
40 degree water.

Cheers MC


N1EE wrote:

I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold. The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast. If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?



Scott Vernon April 18th 04 11:25 PM

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how can I tell?


wrote
Bart is a latent
homosexual. I'm not. YOu may very well be.

BB




Jonathan Ganz April 18th 04 11:48 PM

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Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...

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"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?

Regards


Donal
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Donal April 19th 04 12:19 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...


That wouldn't explain yout frustation!


Regards


Donal
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Donal April 19th 04 12:23 AM

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"Navigator" wrote in message
...


DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?



Welcome back Nav.

Have you been away ... or have you been sulking?



Regards

Donal
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DSK April 19th 04 12:45 AM

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"DSK" wrote
such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted


Scott Vernon wrote:
did I miss that story?


No, you didn't miss it. I didn't tell it. Not much of a story, really,
just a stupid accident.

DSK


DSK April 19th 04 12:48 AM

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DSK wrote:
In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat
definitely has it rewards.



Navigator wrote:
The smell and noise?


If you were invited along, no doubt yes.

DSK


Scott Vernon April 19th 04 02:07 AM

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do tell.

"DSK" wrote

Scott Vernon wrote:
did I miss that story?


No, you didn't miss it. I didn't tell it. Not much of a story, really,
just a stupid accident.

DSK



Scott Vernon April 19th 04 02:08 AM

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You don't know yet? How old are you?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...




DSK April 19th 04 03:04 AM

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Scott Vernon wrote:
do tell.


Well, the whole Charleston cruise is a nice story. A bit long. We went
to an AGLCA rally and also to meet relatives. A bit of a hurry on the
way down, took 3 1/2 days to make the 340 miles (which is good time on
the ICW). The weather was mostly cold & rainy until the day after the
rally.

We had beautiful weather for a tour of Charleston Harbor & the Stono
River with nieces & nephew aboard... megayachts, historic homes along
the waterfront, dolphins, Fort Sumpter... as a bonus, there was a big
E-Scow regatta going on in the harbor. We watched some of the spinnaker
runs and finishes. Another day we went up the Cooper River to check out
the port facility (keeping well out of the way of some big ships) and
the "former" Navy base which still has some activity. There is also a
boatyard or sailing club going on there, a bunch of boats including a
big (50' or maybe 60') catamaran and what looks like an aluminum BOC boat.

The trip back had a few interesting & fun moments. Our departure, at a
time of limited visibility and strong current, was planned carefully.
The wind cooperated with my maneuver to prevent the current from shoving
against any other boats, we got away clean. The rain cleared up and we
had a nice trip past McClellanville and the Cape Romain area (very wild
& unspoiled). We lost count of how many dolphins we saw. Anchored that
night in Minim Creek just above the Santee River.

The next day we went on a side trip... after going up the Waccamaw River
which is one of my favorites but has gotten developed a bit too much,
plus there was a lot of "snowbird" traffic on the ICW, we took a side
trip to Conway SC on the upper Waccamaw. Now this is really unspoiled
and wild... we went for almost two hours and saw no trace of mankind or
his works except for the very occasional channel mark (necessary because
the river takes some bends and has some large tributaries). It would
have been nice to spend a day or two there but we had enough time
pressure that we just cruised past, then went back down and anchored at
the ICW junction. This was a beautiful spot too.

(side note- I put a trip line on the anchor because of the likelihood of
snagging an old dead tree on the river bottom, but it wasn't needed)

Next day we went to Bald Head Island, which forms Cape Fear. Along the
way we had a little drama, in the form of a traffic jam at a bridge and
a barge running aground just behind us. He had swerved to avoid some
stupid fishermen anchored in the channel. I had deliberately revved up
the boat to pass the barge a short time earlier, which was good because
he blocked the channel for much of te rest of the day. This day we also
saw & passed a LOT of big crab-crusher type sailboats which would have
been better suited to transiting offshore instead of putt-putting along
the ICW.

Leaving Bald Head was a bit of drama... there was a high crosswind,
toward the dead end of the between-pier channel. Fortunately most of the
slips were empty. I miscalculated how much room we'd need to swing the
bow into the wind, but we had poor luck with the wind this time and good
luck with everything else. We ended up sideways across a couple of empty
slips, after I missed gouging a 40+ foot fancy motor yacht with our
anchor by an inch or less. By brute force I shoved our bow around
(adrenaline is good) and we got the heck out of there.

The antennae breakage was later that day, and was just a stupid mistake.
We were going through the Wrightsville Beach bridge, clearance 18'.
There was a bit of other traffic distracting us, but basically I lowered
the mast and forgot to lower the antennae. Crunch!

That night we anchored in the New Topsail channel and it was beautiful.
The next day we made the remaining distance back to New Bern, having
some trouble with boneheads in sportfishermen dragging huge wakes... BTW
if you see a boat called "Reel Time" registered in Sue Creek Maryland,
expect a walloping huge wake even if he tells you he's going to pass
slowly. We got some pictures of him pulling a 4' wake past a nice
residential section along Adams Creek, the second time he passed us that
day.

We had a lovely ride up the Neuse River although since we were pointin
almost into the setting sun, the glare was a bit of an issue. We could
see the crab pots OK though. Arrived at our slip in New Bern, tied up
and heaved a big sigh. Washed the boat, a few glasses of wine with
friends, a last night aboard (for a little while) and drive home... man
the highway is so much more frantic & ugly than the waterway!

We took a lot of pictures, I will probably post a few of them to
'webshots' before long. We also burned a tad under 150 gallons of
fuel... consumption 1.7 gallons per hour. That's the story, or at least
more than enough of it for now.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Horvath April 19th 04 03:07 AM

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:20:24 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?



What makes you think Jon-boy is straight?




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Jonathan Ganz April 19th 04 04:22 AM

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It's nice to have a drink with another male and not have to
wonder if he has the hots for me.

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"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...


That wouldn't explain yout frustation!


Regards


Donal
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Jonathan Ganz April 19th 04 04:23 AM

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Too old. And, one might move here. (Besides, I don't live
anywhere near SF, and I sail out of Sausalito.)

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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You don't know yet? How old are you?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...






Jonathan Ganz April 19th 04 04:24 AM

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Uh oh, Horass is reliving his fantasies about me.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:20:24 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?



What makes you think Jon-boy is straight?




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




Horvath April 19th 04 05:19 AM

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:22:50 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It's nice to have a drink with another male and not have to
wonder if he has the hots for me.



Because you have the hots for him?






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