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Jonathan Ganz April 19th 04 06:23 AM

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Like I said many times Horass... I'm not interested in you
even though you have tits.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:22:50 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It's nice to have a drink with another male and not have to
wonder if he has the hots for me.



Because you have the hots for him?






This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




SAIL LOCO April 19th 04 09:39 AM

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You can wear shorts today. You going?

Nope, still doing prep work. Waxing and getting ready to install a new prop
shaft.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

SAIL LOCO April 19th 04 09:41 AM

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I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast.

And you should be. A few springs ago here on the Chesapeake a guy went out
with his girlfriend on their 27 footer. The guy jumps in the water to wipe off
the bottom since the boat spent the winter in the water. He never came up.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Scott Vernon April 19th 04 01:10 PM

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Yikes!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
It's nice to have a drink with another male and
wonder if he has the hots for me.




Scott Vernon April 19th 04 01:13 PM

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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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You can wear shorts today. You going?

Nope, still doing prep work.


me too. Suppose to hit 90* today.
SV


Jonathan Ganz April 19th 04 06:14 PM

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Scotty, I think you and Horass are made for each other. I heard
he really like guys with long sideburns.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Yikes!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
It's nice to have a drink with another male and
wonder if he has the hots for me.






Navigator April 19th 04 11:09 PM

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Bwhahhahaha!

Do you use deodorant on your diesel?

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:
DSK wrote:

In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat
definitely has it rewards.




Navigator wrote:

The smell and noise?



If you were invited along, no doubt yes.

DSK



Navigator April 19th 04 11:17 PM

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Smelly, noisy trip.

340/150 mpg @ 1.7 gph = 3.85 mph

for 3 1/2 days. !!!!!

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Scott Vernon wrote:

do tell.



Well, the whole Charleston cruise is a nice story. A bit long. We went
to an AGLCA rally and also to meet relatives. A bit of a hurry on the
way down, took 3 1/2 days to make the 340 miles (which is good time on
the ICW). The weather was mostly cold & rainy until the day after the
rally.

We had beautiful weather for a tour of Charleston Harbor & the Stono
River with nieces & nephew aboard... megayachts, historic homes along
the waterfront, dolphins, Fort Sumpter... as a bonus, there was a big
E-Scow regatta going on in the harbor. We watched some of the spinnaker
runs and finishes. Another day we went up the Cooper River to check out
the port facility (keeping well out of the way of some big ships) and
the "former" Navy base which still has some activity. There is also a
boatyard or sailing club going on there, a bunch of boats including a
big (50' or maybe 60') catamaran and what looks like an aluminum BOC boat.

The trip back had a few interesting & fun moments. Our departure, at a
time of limited visibility and strong current, was planned carefully.
The wind cooperated with my maneuver to prevent the current from shoving
against any other boats, we got away clean. The rain cleared up and we
had a nice trip past McClellanville and the Cape Romain area (very wild
& unspoiled). We lost count of how many dolphins we saw. Anchored that
night in Minim Creek just above the Santee River.

The next day we went on a side trip... after going up the Waccamaw River
which is one of my favorites but has gotten developed a bit too much,
plus there was a lot of "snowbird" traffic on the ICW, we took a side
trip to Conway SC on the upper Waccamaw. Now this is really unspoiled
and wild... we went for almost two hours and saw no trace of mankind or
his works except for the very occasional channel mark (necessary because
the river takes some bends and has some large tributaries). It would
have been nice to spend a day or two there but we had enough time
pressure that we just cruised past, then went back down and anchored at
the ICW junction. This was a beautiful spot too.

(side note- I put a trip line on the anchor because of the likelihood of
snagging an old dead tree on the river bottom, but it wasn't needed)

Next day we went to Bald Head Island, which forms Cape Fear. Along the
way we had a little drama, in the form of a traffic jam at a bridge and
a barge running aground just behind us. He had swerved to avoid some
stupid fishermen anchored in the channel. I had deliberately revved up
the boat to pass the barge a short time earlier, which was good because
he blocked the channel for much of te rest of the day. This day we also
saw & passed a LOT of big crab-crusher type sailboats which would have
been better suited to transiting offshore instead of putt-putting along
the ICW.

Leaving Bald Head was a bit of drama... there was a high crosswind,
toward the dead end of the between-pier channel. Fortunately most of the
slips were empty. I miscalculated how much room we'd need to swing the
bow into the wind, but we had poor luck with the wind this time and good
luck with everything else. We ended up sideways across a couple of empty
slips, after I missed gouging a 40+ foot fancy motor yacht with our
anchor by an inch or less. By brute force I shoved our bow around
(adrenaline is good) and we got the heck out of there.

The antennae breakage was later that day, and was just a stupid mistake.
We were going through the Wrightsville Beach bridge, clearance 18'.
There was a bit of other traffic distracting us, but basically I lowered
the mast and forgot to lower the antennae. Crunch!

That night we anchored in the New Topsail channel and it was beautiful.
The next day we made the remaining distance back to New Bern, having
some trouble with boneheads in sportfishermen dragging huge wakes... BTW
if you see a boat called "Reel Time" registered in Sue Creek Maryland,
expect a walloping huge wake even if he tells you he's going to pass
slowly. We got some pictures of him pulling a 4' wake past a nice
residential section along Adams Creek, the second time he passed us that
day.

We had a lovely ride up the Neuse River although since we were pointin
almost into the setting sun, the glare was a bit of an issue. We could
see the crab pots OK though. Arrived at our slip in New Bern, tied up
and heaved a big sigh. Washed the boat, a few glasses of wine with
friends, a last night aboard (for a little while) and drive home... man
the highway is so much more frantic & ugly than the waterway!

We took a lot of pictures, I will probably post a few of them to
'webshots' before long. We also burned a tad under 150 gallons of
fuel... consumption 1.7 gallons per hour. That's the story, or at least
more than enough of it for now.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Navigator April 19th 04 11:19 PM

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Away -a lot. I've even been sailing!

Cheers

Donal wrote:

"Navigator" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:



In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.


The smell and noise?




Welcome back Nav.

Have you been away ... or have you been sulking?



Regards

Donal
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Capt. Mooron April 19th 04 11:37 PM

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"Navigator" wrote in message
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| Away -a lot. I've even been sailing!

I HATE YOU DUDE!.... try -40C working steel.

Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!

good to see ya back.

CM



Navigator April 19th 04 11:52 PM

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Were you sailing on Sunday 14th March?

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Too old. And, one might move here. (Besides, I don't live
anywhere near SF, and I sail out of Sausalito.)



Jonathan Ganz April 20th 04 03:15 AM

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I don't remember... why?

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"Navigator" wrote in message
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Were you sailing on Sunday 14th March?

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Too old. And, one might move here. (Besides, I don't live
anywhere near SF, and I sail out of Sausalito.)





Navigator April 20th 04 03:21 AM

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Sounds NASTY. Still, I'm sure that no important appendages froze...

Cheers


Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Navigator" wrote in message
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| Away -a lot. I've even been sailing!

I HATE YOU DUDE!.... try -40C working steel.

Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!

good to see ya back.

CM




Navigator April 20th 04 03:42 AM

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I might have sailed past you...

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I don't remember... why?



Jonathan Ganz April 20th 04 04:07 AM

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Hardly likely if I was out there.. just kidding.

Actually, I looked on the calendar and I was teaching
an intro workshop.. teaching teachers. Morning class,
afternoon Richardson Bay in 16.5 Capris.

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"Navigator" wrote in message
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I might have sailed past you...

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I don't remember... why?





katysails April 20th 04 11:56 AM

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Mooron exclaimed: Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!

There's nothing that could remove the heat from your soul....

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Kirie Elite 32
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron April 20th 04 03:39 PM

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12 hours outside in 20 knot winds at minus 40 and the small spark left
requires immediate tending with an ample application of Overproof Rum. I've
had "frost burns" from handling 5/8's bolts from metal buckets bare handed.

My buddy who crossed the Atlantic in his 29 Bayfield is proposing a trip in
2006 to execute a power boat trip through the Northwest Passage in his
Bayliner 20 diesel walkabout cuddy.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
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| Mooron exclaimed: Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!
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| There's nothing that could remove the heat from your soul....
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| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
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| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
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Navigator April 20th 04 10:14 PM

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Do you mean soul from heart?

Cheers

katysails wrote:

Mooron exclaimed: Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!

There's nothing that could remove the heat from your soul....



Lady Pilot April 21st 04 08:10 AM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Navigator" wrote in message
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| Away -a lot. I've even been sailing!

I HATE YOU DUDE!.... try -40C working steel.

Talk about having the heat sucked from your soul!



I have a wonderful cure for that, you know. ;-)

LP (sweating here for the last week, we had spring for the most of winter.
Every time it got below +40F, I thought of our esteemed Capt. Mooron. But I
don't recall doing the -40F thing...a superman, indeed)




Lady Pilot April 21st 04 08:46 AM

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"Donal" wrote:

"Navigator" wrote:


DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat

definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?



Welcome back Nav.

Have you been away ... or have you been sulking?


snicker

I heard he took a second job to pay back Doug that big $$$ bet. But of
course we all hear things that aren't true. But how do we know for sure?
;-D

LP



DSK April 21st 04 01:27 PM

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Navigator wrote:

Smelly, noisy trip.


Nope. You weren't along.


340/150 mpg @ 1.7 gph = 3.85 mph


Got a problem with math, or is it just common sense? If it's 340 miles
there, and 340 miles back, then your figure is wrong by 2X.

Good thing you're not an engineer.

DSK





Capt. Mooron April 21st 04 03:11 PM

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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

| I have a wonderful cure for that, you know. ;-)

I need a cure....... The Iceman needs thawing! ;-D

CM



Navigator April 21st 04 10:42 PM

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DSK wrote:

Navigator wrote:

Smelly, noisy trip.



Nope. You weren't along.


340/150 mpg @ 1.7 gph = 3.85 mph


Got a problem with math, or is it just common sense? If it's 340 miles
there, and 340 miles back, then your figure is wrong by 2X.

Good thing you're not an engineer.


So your tug averaged 7.7 knots? It must have been really noisy. Is there
a speed limit on the ICW?

Cheers



Joe April 22nd 04 12:33 AM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

| I have a wonderful cure for that, you know. ;-)

I need a cure....... The Iceman needs thawing! ;-D

CM



U 2 need 2 get a room.

Joe

N1EE April 22nd 04 02:06 AM

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I went sailing alone yesterday. Made a quick trip
out the channel, and touched the last two buoys as
I turned around. Well, halfway home, the wind
shifted, dropped, and then quit completely. I
paddled for a while and then hitched a tow the
last 1/4 mi to the boat club.

Powerboats do have their advantages. And I
appreciated the tow.

Today, the current was ripping along at max ebb!
I need to measure it sometime. It looks like 5
knots, maybe 6 knots or more! Someone told me the
Housatonic River has the strongest currents in
New England. It was as bad as the worst I've
seen in New Jersey. Plus the spring run off
makes it worse

I wanted to go sailing today, but chickened out. I
was worried about running agound, by myself, when
the tide was dropping at it's fastest--at least a
foot an hour, and two feet in two hours. Getting
stuck could mean sitting there for more than five
hours.

Now the water temperature is up to 52 degrees. The
water makes the air much cooler on the water. I
couldn't get in to push myself off a sandbar, nor
did I want to risk sitting out in a cold boat
waiting for hours for the tide to rise.

Since I'm 8 for 10 times running aground in the
river in the 12 months, I decided to go put another
coat of fairing material on the big boat instead.
I just finished 16 hours of sanding--so fairing is
a welcome change.

In any event, it was wonderful sailing yesterday,
and it would have been fun to go out today--in a
powerboat.

Bart


Navigator wrote in

DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?

Cheers MC


DSK April 22nd 04 02:50 PM

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Navigator wrote:
So your tug averaged 7.7 knots? It must have been really noisy.


??

Does that seem very fast to you? Do you have no experience whatever with
well tuned, well insulated power plants?

Our boat's pilot house is so noisy underway, that a whisper can be heard
& understood easily. Terrible, isn't it?


... Is there
a speed limit on the ICW?


In some places yes. No wake zones are more common.

DSK


Navigator April 25th 04 10:00 PM

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How much wake does your TUG make at 7.7 knots? How long is it? If that
was you average speed, how fast were you going oustide the no wake zone?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Navigator wrote:

So your tug averaged 7.7 knots? It must have been really noisy.



??

Does that seem very fast to you? Do you have no experience whatever with
well tuned, well insulated power plants?

Our boat's pilot house is so noisy underway, that a whisper can be heard
& understood easily. Terrible, isn't it?


... Is there a speed limit on the ICW?



In some places yes. No wake zones are more common.

DSK




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