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DSK April 18th 04 05:07 PM

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N1EE wrote:
I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold.


We've had a series of cold fronts... no foolin' it got below freezing
several times. Day before yesterday it became summer in about 1/2
hour... cloudy & windy & cool to impossibly sunny & 80+ degrees. What
happened to spring? I blame Bush & Rumsfeld of course ;)

... The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast.


Good idea. I'd probably consider wearing a wet suit.
.... If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?


From what I've read & seen, it's hard to be certain but it's a big
risk. Like almost everything in nature, hypothermia casualty rate
follows a bell curve. Some people will die very quickly, some will be
all but impervious. I have personally rescued a young & very fit person
from water that was a little below 40 degrees when he slipped and fell
in... about knee deep but he could not get up and was not breathing on
his own when we dragged him ashore. He was knocked out almost instantly.


Where do your relatives live?


Ridgefield, Norwalk, Groton. My family is all Yankees except for me!


Do you have your traweler in the water yet? What sort
of projects do you have planned for it this year?


Shucks, we never hauled it! We just got back from a cruise down to
Charleston SC. We saw a LOT of snowbird traffic on the ICW, mostly
sailboats that would have been better suited to "outside" transits IMHO.

We did take the time to do some exploring, made the side trip up the
beautiful Waccamaw River to Conway SC. Went over to Bald Head Island
(Cape Fear NC) and bicycled around.

Projects for this year are putting in a bigger battery bank, a windlass,
maybe a fuel polishing/booster pump. Finishing the dinghy! And of
course the usual fix-up & maintenance, such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted and keeping up all the varnish.

In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jonathan Ganz April 18th 04 06:44 PM

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Many people go into cardiac arrest and don't get a chance to
have hypothermia.

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"DSK" wrote in message
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N1EE wrote:
I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold.


We've had a series of cold fronts... no foolin' it got below freezing
several times. Day before yesterday it became summer in about 1/2
hour... cloudy & windy & cool to impossibly sunny & 80+ degrees. What
happened to spring? I blame Bush & Rumsfeld of course ;)

... The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast.


Good idea. I'd probably consider wearing a wet suit.
.... If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?


From what I've read & seen, it's hard to be certain but it's a big
risk. Like almost everything in nature, hypothermia casualty rate
follows a bell curve. Some people will die very quickly, some will be
all but impervious. I have personally rescued a young & very fit person
from water that was a little below 40 degrees when he slipped and fell
in... about knee deep but he could not get up and was not breathing on
his own when we dragged him ashore. He was knocked out almost instantly.


Where do your relatives live?


Ridgefield, Norwalk, Groton. My family is all Yankees except for me!


Do you have your traweler in the water yet? What sort
of projects do you have planned for it this year?


Shucks, we never hauled it! We just got back from a cruise down to
Charleston SC. We saw a LOT of snowbird traffic on the ICW, mostly
sailboats that would have been better suited to "outside" transits IMHO.

We did take the time to do some exploring, made the side trip up the
beautiful Waccamaw River to Conway SC. Went over to Bald Head Island
(Cape Fear NC) and bicycled around.

Projects for this year are putting in a bigger battery bank, a windlass,
maybe a fuel polishing/booster pump. Finishing the dinghy! And of
course the usual fix-up & maintenance, such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted and keeping up all the varnish.

In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Donal April 18th 04 10:20 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?

Regards


Donal
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Navigator April 18th 04 10:40 PM

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DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?

Cheers MC


Scott Vernon April 18th 04 10:49 PM

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did I miss that story?

SV

"DSK" wrote
such as replacing the VHF
antennae that I busted




Navigator April 18th 04 11:10 PM

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Swimming around a capsized boat will dramatically reduce the time to
unconsiousness. In such a situation you might have less than 10 mins in
40 degree water.

Cheers MC


N1EE wrote:

I wore a long sleeve T-shirt while sailing yesterday
and felt a little cold. The water is around 40 degrees,
and the air is much warmer. I was somewhat cautious in
that water that cold will kill very fast. If 50 degree
water has a 50% chance of killing in 50 minutes, how long
would a person last in 40 degree water?



Scott Vernon April 18th 04 11:25 PM

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how can I tell?


wrote
Bart is a latent
homosexual. I'm not. YOu may very well be.

BB




Jonathan Ganz April 18th 04 11:48 PM

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Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. He's gay I guess.


Jon,

Are you the only straight person left in San Francisco?

Frustating, isn't it?

Regards


Donal
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Donal April 19th 04 12:19 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Well, I might be the only straight male left in SF...


That wouldn't explain yout frustation!


Regards


Donal
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Donal April 19th 04 12:23 AM

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"Navigator" wrote in message
...


DSK wrote:


In all, I'd rather be sailing an Etchells. Well, the tugboat definitely
has it rewards.

The smell and noise?



Welcome back Nav.

Have you been away ... or have you been sulking?



Regards

Donal
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