jim cate has been pushing "new, improved" Mac 26's on this site now for way too
long. If he were the kind of guy who would *actually* buy such a POS he would
have come and gone in 36 hours.

but no, jimmy just keeps coming back with yet more tripe about how a Mac 26,
brand new with engine on a trailer for "only" $30k, is a superior boat to a
brand new (without trailer) Valiant 40 (actually they are 42 now) at $450,000.

only some dumb squat mac dealer would compare the two boats, and then just keep
right on taking abuse for his dumb statements.

Are mac 26 sales in the toilet? jim cate's actions make it sound like it.

Jax asked:
Are mac 26 sales in the toilet?

I would think not. They stick their money into the marketing campaigns at
boat shows and lure in all the newbie wannabe's, especially those with
familiarity with small motorcraft. This was the newbie to sailing doesn't
suffer "shock" when he loses all his power but still gets the ethereal joy
of "sailing". Quite frankly, if I wanted to motor and sail, I'd go the
pilothouse motorsailor anyday before buying a *******ized ski boat. The
price tag appeals to the young set with a couple of little kids. It's
affordable on a middle class income whereas a 30K used good sailboat is
going to need maintenance, time, and knowledge to keep it up. And you can't
tow the kids in a tube very fast, so the kids might get bored without all
the over=stimulation of a "fast" boat. What these people don't get is that
people like us (ng regulars) sail for entirely different reasons than
wanting to "get there", entertain the kids, or what they may think is
versatility. Jim Cate just does not "get it".
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

If 'getting back to your home port safely & quickly' is your primary
concern, you should NOT leave the dock, and definitley should NOT be buying
a sailboat (or a Mac26X-M ).

SV


"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
...
The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

Scott Vernon wrote:

If 'getting back to your home port safely & quickly' is your primary
concern, you should NOT leave the dock, and definitley should NOT be buying
a sailboat (or a Mac26X-M ).

SV


I don't intend to take the Mac out more than 100 miles or so from shore.
I do recognize that it wasn't designed for ocean crossings.

Jim




"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
...

The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

Jim, it wasn't designed to go one mile offshore. Every picture, every claim of
"performance," is in absolutely flat water. This is the major shortcoming of
the design - its completely worthless as a sailboat in open water. You may be
able get t "blue water" quickly, but you won't want t stay there.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

If 'getting back to your home port safely & quickly' is your primary
concern, you should NOT leave the dock, and definitley should NOT be buying
a sailboat (or a Mac26X-M ).

SV


I don't intend to take the Mac out more than 100 miles or so from shore.
I do recognize that it wasn't designed for ocean crossings.

Jim




"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
...

The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

SPAM!!

If 'getting back to your home port safely & quickly' is your primary
concern, you should NOT leave the dock, and definitley should NOT be buying
a sailboat (or a Mac26X-M ).

SV


I don't intend to take the Mac out more than 100 miles or so from shore.
I do recognize that it wasn't designed for ocean crossings.

Jim




"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
...

The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

I don't intend to take the Mac out more than 100 miles or so from shore.
I do recognize that it wasn't designed for ocean crossings.

Jim

100 miles? don't take it 1 mile from shore, or in waves above 2 feet or winds
above 15 knots.

It's barely intended for a bath tub. Good decision!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

If 'getting back to your home port safely & quickly' is your primary
concern, you should NOT leave the dock, and definitley should NOT be
buying
a sailboat (or a Mac26X-M ).

SV


I don't intend to take the Mac out more than 100 miles or so from shore.
I do recognize that it wasn't designed for ocean crossings.

Jim




"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
...

The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..
Sailing is very dependent on the wind.. and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.
THat is worth its weight in gold.
W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine.. often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

(John W. Bienko) wrote in message ...
The Mac 26 is designed by a genius team..

Sailing is very dependent on the wind..

How genius! Did you cut and paste that word of wisdom from the mac
homepage?


and if it dies down..
one can get back to home port safely and quickly.. dependably.

What if your crappy unsafe outboard will not start?


THat is worth its weight in gold.

W hat does one do sailing to Catalina Island.. 12 miles
offshore and the wind goes down to a zepher..

Fish, sunbathe, read, cook, music, stargaze, write, unwind, relax,
swim,
drink, talk, enjoy being out of the smog zone ect....


I sail a C&C 27 Mark III and love it because of its
performance with the Hood Sails and its wonderful lines.
I rarely motor the Atomic 4 engine..

Dont blame you, an explosion waiting to happen. Gasoline on any boat
is insane.


often sailing
directly into the mooring through a narrow harbour
entrance, along a long main harbour, making a turn
into a smaller harbour, with a challenging current,
into my 12 foot mooring.. singlehanded.

Jezze you must be sailor of the year, just think what you could do
with a mac, you could pull water skiers thru your marina singlehanded!

Joe
MSV RedCloud