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JAXAshby April 15th 04 11:59 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
yeah, sure, right, ubetcha. every pirate/thief on the planet has the reaction
time of a snail, and shoots with the accuracy of an 8 year old girl on a
badmitten court.

joe, faced with a professional you wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in

Hell
of living even a few hundreths of a second. ...


While this may or may not be true (I don't know Joe's background &
training), he is hardly likely to find any real pros, such as SEALs, FBI
SWAT, etc., committing piracy. Most perp'ing these kinds of crimes are
stupid addicts weakened by their habits (Smart crooks become politicians and
pass anti-gun laws to protect their less intellegent brethern). This gives
Joe an edge. When two young men broke into an elderly (80s) man's home
recently the geezer shot one of them to death with his own gun then chased
the other away. But you'll not read that one in the N.Y. Times or Washington
Compost.











JAXAshby April 16th 04 12:03 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
And I can hit a 2" target
a 225 yards and thats with the carbine. Now with my Brit 303 I can hit
a crab trap float at 1000 yards on a rocking boat.


sure, and you can pork a broad (your type of words) 23 times in a night and
still do her virgin sisters the next morning.

That why you feel you need a hand-gun for protection.



Horvath April 16th 04 12:23 AM

War of Independence
 
On 15 Apr 2004 11:20:41 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

was "the Patriot" about the battle of New Orleans in 1815?


Surely you must be kidding! "The Patriot" took place during the War
of Independence. The battle near the end of the movie, where the
militia was deployed in the center, and drew the British into a double
envelopment, was a depiction of the battle of Cowpens. 17 January
1781.

If so, the American
redneck farmers had hunting rifles that could fire accurately at up to 200
yards, while the Brits had rifles accurate to only 100 yards. The Americans
would shoot at the Brits until they were getting to close, then back up.


Apparently you don't know the difference between rifles and muskets.


The Brits also used a battlefield tactic they found useful for the flat plains
of Europe, namely lining up in rows and marching forward to overwhelm the
enemy, with losses. The terrain of the Battle of New Orleans did not make this
tactic viable.


That was a tactic used for thousands of years, with great success, and
had nothing to do with the terrain.

Watched 'The Patriot' last night. I loved the way a few bumbling backwoods
red-neck farmers got the best of Her Majesties finest soldiers.


True, but it wasn't the militia that won the war, it was Washington's
regulars.

The last battle was at Yorktown. Cornwallis was under seige, and
awaiting reinforcements. The French fleet cut off the ships bringing
those reinforcements, giving the victory to Washington. Didn't you
notice the French ships in the harbor near the end of that last
battle?





Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:20 AM

War of Independence
 
were they the ones with the lace panties hanging from the riggin?

SV


"Horvath" wrote
Didn't you
notice the French ships in the harbor near the end of that last
battle?





Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.



Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:31 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
BWaaaaahaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahh aha

OzOne wrote in message ...
On 15 Apr 2004 22:59:39 GMT, (JAXAshby) scribbled
thusly:

shoots with the accuracy of an 8 year old girl on a
badmitten court.


Maybe she should switch to the good mittens


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Horvath April 16th 04 04:44 AM

War of Independence
 
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:20:31 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

were they the ones with the lace panties hanging from the riggin?


Let me stop and catch my breath. I'm laughing too hard.

All seriousness aside, this was the last time the French helped us
out. And probably the last time.

Sometimes I think that the only reason Great Britian is on our side is
because it ****es off the French.






Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

Jonathan Ganz April 16th 04 07:39 AM

War of Independence
 
Probably right, but they do have fewer heart attacks.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:20:31 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

were they the ones with the lace panties hanging from the riggin?


Let me stop and catch my breath. I'm laughing too hard.

All seriousness aside, this was the last time the French helped us
out. And probably the last time.

Sometimes I think that the only reason Great Britian is on our side is
because it ****es off the French.






Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.




Vito April 16th 04 02:12 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
"JAXAshby" wrote
And I can hit a 2" target at 225 yards and ......


sure, and you can pork a broad (your type of words) 23 times in a night


Naw ... I dunno about you but I'm sixty-something so I'd need 23 *different*
women to perform like that.

still do her virgin sisters the next morning.


BT-DT ... but I suspect they were BSing about their virginity.

That why you feel you need a hand-gun for protection.


Of course! From jealous young husbands!

Ever try Rodeo Sex?



Scott Vernon April 16th 04 02:52 PM

War of Independence
 
Even back then there was contempt towards the french, according to Mel
Gibsons' character.

Scotty

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:20:31 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

were they the ones with the lace panties hanging from the riggin?


Let me stop and catch my breath. I'm laughing too hard.

All seriousness aside, this was the last time the French helped us
out. And probably the last time.

Sometimes I think that the only reason Great Britian is on our side is
because it ****es off the French.






Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.



Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:08 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
"Vito" wrote

Ever try Rodeo Sex?


Tried it once, kept falling off the bull.

SV



Vito April 16th 04 03:20 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
A friend has fits of remorse if he throws a round outside a 12 inch circle
at 1000 yards firing offhand (standing, no support) using an old Garand with
iron sights. Another whacked several Iraqis at nearly twice that range with
a .50 cal sniper rifle. They're what I call good, but it took alot of
training and practice.

I'm a mediocre shot by those standards. I'd need a scope and some support to
hit anything at 1000 yards. I can however lay round after round on a
man-size target at 50-100 yards with a pistol, and twice that with a rifle.
I have conscientiously spent many many hours firing literally 1000s of
rounds to achieve even that moderate level of skill.

I doubt that many pirates have bothered to practice that strenuously and
hence doubt their ability to shoot even as poorly as I do. In fact, I
suspect they shoot even worse than NYPD officers. One would be pretty safe
so long as they were trying to hit you - given the percent of bullets that
hit their target in typical shoot outs.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, sure, right, ubetcha. every pirate/thief on the planet has the

reaction
time of a snail, and shoots with the accuracy of an 8 year old girl on a
badmitten court.




Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:29 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
Practice shmactice, I carry a sawed off double barrel.

SV

"Vito" wrote in message
...
A friend has fits of remorse if he throws a round outside a 12 inch circle
at 1000 yards firing offhand (standing, no support) using an old Garand

with
iron sights. Another whacked several Iraqis at nearly twice that range

with
a .50 cal sniper rifle. They're what I call good, but it took alot of
training and practice.

I'm a mediocre shot by those standards. I'd need a scope and some support

to
hit anything at 1000 yards. I can however lay round after round on a
man-size target at 50-100 yards with a pistol, and twice that with a

rifle.
I have conscientiously spent many many hours firing literally 1000s of
rounds to achieve even that moderate level of skill.

I doubt that many pirates have bothered to practice that strenuously and
hence doubt their ability to shoot even as poorly as I do. In fact, I
suspect they shoot even worse than NYPD officers. One would be pretty

safe
so long as they were trying to hit you - given the percent of bullets that
hit their target in typical shoot outs.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, sure, right, ubetcha. every pirate/thief on the planet has the

reaction
time of a snail, and shoots with the accuracy of an 8 year old girl on a
badmitten court.





Joe April 16th 04 05:37 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
And I can hit a 2" target
a 225 yards and thats with the carbine. Now with my Brit 303 I can hit
a crab trap float at 1000 yards on a rocking boat.


sure, and you can pork a broad (your type of words) 23 times in a night and
still do her virgin sisters the next morning.



Your truly the mensa town idiot. When have I ever reffered to a lady
as a broad Jaxass?


That why you feel you need a hand-gun for protection.


Yeah thats why mensa boy, you got it. Genious----pure genious.

What do you use for protection? Do you post a picture of Jaxho in a
speedo on your front door? Thats gotta be very effective.

Joe

N1EE April 16th 04 05:52 PM

War of Independence
 
Horvath wrote

The last battle was at Yorktown. Cornwallis was under seige, and
awaiting reinforcements. The French fleet cut off the ships bringing
those reinforcements, giving the victory to Washington. Didn't you
notice the French ships in the harbor near the end of that last
battle?


http://www.mariner.org/usnavy/03/03e.htm

Very little was written about the "Battle of the Capes" between
the British and French Fleets at the mouth of the Cheasepeake
Bay. The Brits really screwed this one up by not engaging the
French. The French fleet successfully defended their postion.
After dancing around for a few days, the French were reinforced,
and the slightly outnumbered British fleet chickened out and ran
away.

On land Cornwallis was pinched off, and surrendered six weeks
later--entirely due to the British Navy's failure to engage and
fight the French decisively when they had the chance.

All Americans owe British Rear Admirals Hood, and Graves and
Prime Minister Lord North--the notable "Brit's who quit", that
threw in the towel, and our gratitude to French Rear Admiral de
Grasse for this relatively minor battle which had enormous
strategic implications.

Bart Senior

N1EE April 16th 04 05:53 PM

War of Independence
 
Horvath wrote

All seriousness aside, this was the last time the French helped us
out. And probably the last time.

Sometimes I think that the only reason Great Britian is on our side is
because it ****es off the French.


I guess this means the French will fight when cornered and
have no place to run.

JAXAshby April 17th 04 01:07 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
Ever try Rodeo Sex?

not even in joking.

JAXAshby April 17th 04 01:08 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
Your truly the mensa town idiot. When have I ever reffered to a lady
as a broad Jaxass?


sorry, I confused you with a guy who felt he needed a handgun to protect
himself.


JAXAshby April 17th 04 01:09 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
What do you use for protection?

Joe


intelligence.



JAXAshby April 17th 04 01:11 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
A friend has fits of remorse if he throws a round outside a 12 inch circle
at 1000 yards firing offhand (standing, no support) using an old Garand with
iron sights.


with a Garand, eh?

[scoffle]

JAXAshby April 17th 04 01:13 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
Practice shmactice, I carry a sawed off double barrel.

SV


careful Scotty, you'r going to have joe and vito start telling how *they* can
hit a quarter thrown in the air at 400 yards with a sawed off shotgun, one
handed.

Scott Vernon April 17th 04 04:38 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
don't be silly.

OzOne wrote

with their eyes closed




Horvath April 17th 04 06:21 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:55:22 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:

On 17 Apr 2004 00:13:27 GMT, (JAXAshby) scribbled
thusly:

Practice shmactice, I carry a sawed off double barrel.

SV


careful Scotty, you'r going to have joe and vito start telling how *they* can
hit a quarter thrown in the air at 400 yards with a sawed off shotgun, one
handed.


with their eyes closed


and with one foot in the air.





Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

Jonathan Ganz April 17th 04 08:41 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
And standing on a hunter while it's in its normal condition... sinking.

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www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:55:22 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:

On 17 Apr 2004 00:13:27 GMT, (JAXAshby) scribbled
thusly:

Practice shmactice, I carry a sawed off double barrel.

SV

careful Scotty, you'r going to have joe and vito start telling how

*they* can
hit a quarter thrown in the air at 400 yards with a sawed off shotgun,

one
handed.


with their eyes closed


and with one foot in the air.





Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.




Donal April 18th 04 01:19 AM

Handguns and sailing
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
What do you use for protection?

Joe


intelligence.


So, when is the baby due?



Regards


Donal
--




JAXAshby April 18th 04 03:16 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
What do you use for protection?

Joe


intelligence.


So, when is the baby due?


1979. and a nifty kid, too. planned.

Capt. Mooron April 24th 04 02:05 AM

Handguns and sailing
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message

| The point was not the a pistol is a superior weapon, it is not, but rather
that
| Canada allows such to imported under certain conditions.

Only if you are a federally licensed dealer with all the documentation.


|
| I understand the standard weapon in Yellowknife households is a rifle or
| sometimes shotgun, loaded and kept near the front door ready for immediate
use
| in case children or adults need protection from hungry bear.

All firearms in Canada must be kept in a locked vault and the ammo locked in
a separate safe. All firearms must be equipped with trigger locks when not
in use... even when locked in the safe box.

| If I were to make the Inside Passage and were to consider it likely going
| ashore, I probably would consider taking a rifle with me. I do know that
prior
| when my brother was considering flying a small aircraft from Montana to
Alaska
| he was told by the Canadian authorities that he would be required to take
a
| large bore (meaning NOT a .22) rifle or shotgun with him as he passed over
| Canadian territory. It had to be a large rifle or shotgun unless his
aircraft
| was physically too small to carry such, in which case he would be allowed
to
| carry a large bore pistol, but he would be inspected so if the rifle would
fit,
| take it.

The above paragraph from Jax is pure BULL****! The Canadian government has
no such regulations... never has never will. You are making this up Jax.

No non residents are permitted to carry any firearms... [nor have they been
for over twenty years] without a licensed hunting guide and in possession of
a valid Alien Hunting Permit... for that specific area. No person other than
a Law Enforcement officer or DFO enforcement personnel may carry a handgun
as protection in the forest.

Allow me to clue you in Jaxxies....
No American is permitted to have a firearm his possession on Canadian
soil/waters unless it is in transport to a recognized Outfitter or submitted
to customs.Model Make and serial number must be provided for each gun
Crossbows are restricted weapons
Handguns are restricted weapons
Any magazine holding more than 5 rounds is illegal (shotguns limited to 8
rounds)
Prohibited weapons include any caliber over .50 unless it's a flint lock,
some semi auto assault and fully autos. Only law enforcement may have those
weapons.
All Canadians must have a valid Firearms Acquisition Certificate to own or
purchase guns or ammo
All Canadians who own guns must have them registered and have a card for
each firearm.
Any household having firearms can be entered without a warrant.

Try researching your subject first next time you feel the urge to talk above
your abilities again.

CM






Lady Pilot April 24th 04 08:03 AM

Handguns and sailing
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Any household having firearms can be entered without a warrant.


That law sucks! So you have to give up your freedom to own a firearm for a
UN-warranted search?

You Canadians, I love you, but you guys are absolutely crazy!

LP xoxo



Capt. Mooron April 24th 04 02:14 PM

Handguns and sailing
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:wjoic.12082$c%3.5972@okepread02...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| Any household having firearms can be entered without a warrant.
|
| That law sucks! So you have to give up your freedom to own a firearm for
a
| UN-warranted search?
|
| You Canadians, I love you, but you guys are absolutely crazy!

Yes darlin... I concur.... they snuck that in disguised and passed the bill
despite a wall of protest.
Estimated cost of gun registration was 3 million dollars.... cost so far....
6 Billion and climbing.
There are still many people holding out and refusing to comply, hoping for
an arrest and court case to prove a violation of charter rights. None have
been arrested to date. Even the Veterans to protested on the Parliament
grounds in Ottawa.

Unfortunately the law has resulted in a fast growing new underground
business of high tech gun sales. Now the criminals have access to truly high
grade prohibited weapons and the law abiding population is left looking for
keys and undoing several locks and boxes to access a firearm to defend
themselves.

CM



N1EE April 25th 04 07:00 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
Haven't the gun owners started any group action
against the appropriate politicians and laws?

"Capt. Mooron" wrote

Yes darlin... I concur.... they snuck that in disguised and passed the bill
despite a wall of protest.
Estimated cost of gun registration was 3 million dollars.... cost so far....
6 Billion and climbing.
There are still many people holding out and refusing to comply, hoping for
an arrest and court case to prove a violation of charter rights. None have
been arrested to date. Even the Veterans to protested on the Parliament
grounds in Ottawa.

Unfortunately the law has resulted in a fast growing new underground
business of high tech gun sales. Now the criminals have access to truly high
grade prohibited weapons and the law abiding population is left looking for
keys and undoing several locks and boxes to access a firearm to defend
themselves.

CM


Capt. Mooron April 25th 04 04:51 PM

Handguns and sailing
 
Yes.... some groups have formed but with no effect to date. The law stands
and is steadily accumulating a greater debt load with every passing month.
Rough estimates stand at 70% compliance rating. There have been serious
flaws uncovered... like multiple registration cards for a single weapon,
applications not processed correctly, aboriginal people are not subject to
equivalent requirements... I could go on but you get my drift.

Now only the police and the criminals have the high powered weapons and the
law abiding citizens are held hostage to home invasions by both groups with
no means of protection.

It's a farce of a law.

CM





"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
| Haven't the gun owners started any group action
| against the appropriate politicians and laws?
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
|
| Yes darlin... I concur.... they snuck that in disguised and passed the
bill
| despite a wall of protest.
| Estimated cost of gun registration was 3 million dollars.... cost so
far....
| 6 Billion and climbing.
| There are still many people holding out and refusing to comply, hoping
for
| an arrest and court case to prove a violation of charter rights. None
have
| been arrested to date. Even the Veterans to protested on the Parliament
| grounds in Ottawa.
|
| Unfortunately the law has resulted in a fast growing new underground
| business of high tech gun sales. Now the criminals have access to truly
high
| grade prohibited weapons and the law abiding population is left looking
for
| keys and undoing several locks and boxes to access a firearm to defend
| themselves.
|
| CM



Vito April 26th 04 01:26 PM

Handguns and sailing
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
"JAXAshby" wrote

| I understand the standard weapon in Yellowknife households is a rifle or
| sometimes shotgun, loaded and kept near the front door .....
| in case children or adults need protection from hungry bear.

All firearms in Canada must be kept in a locked vault and the ammo locked

in
a separate safe. All firearms must be equipped with trigger locks when not
in use... even when locked in the safe box.


To protect the bear??



Capt. Mooron April 26th 04 02:38 PM

Handguns and sailing
 

"Vito" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
| "JAXAshby" wrote
|
| | I understand the standard weapon in Yellowknife households is a rifle
or
| | sometimes shotgun, loaded and kept near the front door .....
| | in case children or adults need protection from hungry bear.
|
| All firearms in Canada must be kept in a locked vault and the ammo
locked
| in
| a separate safe. All firearms must be equipped with trigger locks when
not
| in use... even when locked in the safe box.
|
| To protect the bear??

More likely to protect the Idiot Politicians who enacted the legislation....

CM



Horvath April 27th 04 04:12 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:26:57 -0400, "Vito" wrote
this crap:


"Capt. Mooron" wrote
"JAXAshby" wrote

| I understand the standard weapon in Yellowknife households is a rifle or
| sometimes shotgun, loaded and kept near the front door .....
| in case children or adults need protection from hungry bear.

All firearms in Canada must be kept in a locked vault and the ammo locked

in
a separate safe. All firearms must be equipped with trigger locks when not
in use... even when locked in the safe box.


To protect the bear??


You misspelled beer.




My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

Jonathan Ganz April 27th 04 07:26 AM

Handguns and sailing
 
Good one.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:26:57 -0400, "Vito" wrote
this crap:


"Capt. Mooron" wrote
"JAXAshby" wrote

| I understand the standard weapon in Yellowknife households is a rifle

or
| sometimes shotgun, loaded and kept near the front door .....
| in case children or adults need protection from hungry bear.

All firearms in Canada must be kept in a locked vault and the ammo

locked
in
a separate safe. All firearms must be equipped with trigger locks when

not
in use... even when locked in the safe box.


To protect the bear??


You misspelled beer.




My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."





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