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ya but, our guns are bigger!
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. We've got more guns per capita than 'mericans, but we don't use them the same way you do. Cheers Marty |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:34:45 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote this crap: Scott Vernon wrote: sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. We've got more guns per capita than 'mericans, but we don't use them the same way you do. Then you need to take some lessons. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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yesOn Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:15:46 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote: none wrote: The cops are SO antigun here that a 911 call metioning the word GUN will brign the wrath of god on the perps...whereas pulling a pistol from a a shaky hand will get you beat to death. IMHO rick rick Exactly Rick, if Jax had bothered to read his link he would have seen that the only circumstance that might allow a bringing a restricted weapon (all handguns) into the country would be participation in a recognized shooting competition. Tooting around in your sail boat with one just doesn't cut it. true, and that is canada,,what of other countries where adherance to the rule of law is suspect? My point was not so much GUN=BAD, I own myself, it is that the 'need' to have a handgun on your person in canada is nill...and on a sailboat...off the chart. I am sure that if the authorities (police, coasties, customs inspectors ...) were to board your vessel and find any sort of firearm onboard, would go pretty much ballistic. If it were a hand gun the story would probably make the front page of the National Post. that's true. A lot of people from certain states in the USA forget that most civilized places don't allow conc~ weapons. AND,,,the 'certain' states is very important. Many states now have as little tolerance for handguns as all of canada...it is just that our gun jurisdiction is federal in Canada...the USA makes that a state concern. I understand that cops in NY or Boston will beat you with your gun before they charge you and make life unbearable for you....i heard anyway. Cheers Marty likewise. rick -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:19:27 -0500, Scott Vernon wrote:
sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. Scotty now that is childish and adds no credibility to your argument Scott...want to try again? rick |
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the only circumstance that might allow a bringing a restricted
weapon (all handguns) into the country would be participation in a recognized shooting competition. or for protection from animals. Not an issue in much of the country, but can be a concern in the Canadian Rockies. btw, the State of Alaska (which covers a large part of the trip from Seattle to Ankorage *requires* of all small aircraft operating outside of very limited areas to cover a pistol or shotgun or rifle, in addition to various pieces of survival gear. The Canadians used to much more strict re the survival gear required (for remote areas) but have made the law rather nubulous now. survival gear for remote areas is considered prudent. That said, I have no use for weapons today, having used then in earnest as a young man in the employ of my Uncle Sam. |
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Careful Martin, Horass is getting "interested" in you. He wants
to give you lessons. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:34:45 -0500, Martin Baxter wrote this crap: Scott Vernon wrote: sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. We've got more guns per capita than 'mericans, but we don't use them the same way you do. Then you need to take some lessons. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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"none" wrote in message
... On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:19:27 -0500, Scott Vernon wrote: sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. Scotty now that is childish and adds no credibility to your argument Scott...want to try again? rick nah, I've made my point. ^ SV |
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"none" wrote:
the 'need' to have a handgun on your person in canada is nill... right! because they're all a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. Glad you agree with me. Scotty |
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I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing maiming
robbing me or mine. Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/ murderer/ gangbanger, where would you most like to ply your trade? In a country or state where you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone MAY have such a weapon. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose. One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front door? -- Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acon-pchelp.com "none" wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:01:21 -0500, Martin Baxter wrote: JAXAshby wrote: snip... http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners_...ts/visitin.asp that's a start. that site doesn't mention protection from wildlife, but the canadian site does. I just didn't spend any time looking for it. Reading comprehension problems again? I wrote "you", we have a strict policy against allowing sociopaths to enter the country, armed or not. Cheers Marty I 'guess' i can see the logic of 'packing' in the US where many other packer's are and where you are 100:1 more likley to be gunned down cf Canada...But the argument wears mighty thin regarding packing in Canada where you have to try hard to find a reason to do so ....drug smokin hippies, shady cops, mean animals, commie *******s.. other 'un-enlightened' Americans...which one gives you such concern that you would try to kill them? The right to bear arms [and risk a sunburn] applies only to certain states with those United States and has no pluck anywhere else in the world. Just don't visit Canada if you feel the need to have a person killing m,achine on your person. The cops are SO antigun here that a 911 call metioning the word GUN will brign the wrath of god on the perps...whereas pulling a pistol from a a shaky hand will get you beat to death. IMHO rick rick |
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Try to think of it this way. If you were a ... gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade? ah, maybe where the girls are who want a gaggle of guys at one time? so, you wanna use a gun to stop the guys or stop the girls who want the guys? |
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"JR" wrote...
I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing maiming robbing me or mine. How? hitting them with your purse? Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/ murderer/ gangbanger, where would you most like to ply your trade? robber=bank or 7-11 store rapist=local college girls dorm murdere=where the person I want to murder is gangbanger=local college girls dorm In a country or state where you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone MAY have such a weapon. More likely, the country that you are in. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose. One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front door? whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a desirable theft item. Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acorn-pchump.com hope you know more about puters than you do guns. SV |
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I am a former police officer of a small Pennsylvania town.
I have an extensive collection of firearms, mostly handguns with a few hunting rifles and shotguns. If you want to break into my home and steal my guns you will have to either break open my gunsafe or carry the 1200 lb monster out my basement door. There are few robberies here as most home owners in this area do own firearms. There are a few burglaries however, usually with the perps looking for cash or electronics. More often than not any firearms are locked up or well hidden. I'm not WANTING to KILL anyone. I am WANTING to STOP anyone trying to rob or hurt me or my family. The thought of the perp being killed is secondary to STOPPING them. I do not have any firearms on my boat, but would seriously consider it if I were to sail off shore. I hope you know more about sailing than you do about firearms and their use/abuse. Otherwise you are one of the most dangerous persons on the water. To yourself and others. Respectfully and Sincerely, JR -- Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acon-pchelp.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "JR" wrote... I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing maiming robbing me or mine. How? hitting them with your purse? Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/ murderer/ gangbanger, where would you most like to ply your trade? robber=bank or 7-11 store rapist=local college girls dorm murdere=where the person I want to murder is gangbanger=local college girls dorm In a country or state where you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone MAY have such a weapon. More likely, the country that you are in. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose. One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front door? whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a desirable theft item. Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acorn-pchump.com hope you know more about puters than you do guns. SV |
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i doubt we could ever be in agreeance...i only respond to you to see how
low you are willing to go. So far you and the neighbors dog are intelectual equals. don't disapoint me....it is quite entertaining. On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 23:05:16 -0500, Scott Vernon wrote: "none" wrote: the 'need' to have a handgun on your person in canada is nill... right! because they're all a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. Glad you agree with me. Scotty -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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you sure did but the point you 'think' you made was not the point taken.
common...try again! your bustin me up. On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 23:02:14 -0500, Scott Vernon wrote: "none" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:19:27 -0500, Scott Vernon wrote: sounds like a bunch of sissy-girl wimps up there. Scotty now that is childish and adds no credibility to your argument Scott...want to try again? rick nah, I've made my point. ^ SV -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On 02 Apr 2004 23:53:19 GMT, JAXAshby wrote:
the only circumstance that might allow a bringing a restricted weapon (all handguns) into the country would be participation in a recognized shooting competition. or for protection from animals. Not an issue in much of the country, but can be a concern in the Canadian Rockies. any old excuse will do huh? the animals that are left here in Canada used to roam the USA as well....but fearfull men with small penis's killed tham all from a distance....now they must look to other social groups for their nemisis So...if you run into a griz bear in your boat i am sure you will be needing more than a gun to get you back on track. What is it about that mentality that requires so much protection form so many things? I ask in seriousness because it looks saddly fearful form my stance...that so much hostility has been created that you need a gun to give you peace of mind in Canada...i can't think of a safer country close to the USA now...? The Canadians used to much more strict re the survival gear required (for remote areas) but have made the law rather nubulous now. survival gear for remote areas is considered prudent. what is "nubulous" and what do you know of Canadian policy and law? seriously? That said, I have no use for weapons today, having used then in earnest as a young man in the employ of my Uncle Sam. Very well. that was then and this os now right? Good dayJax -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 07:53:29 GMT, JR wrote:
snip.... Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/ murderer/ gangbanger, where would you most like to ply your trade? In a country or state where you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone MAY have such a weapon. then try to think of it this way: If you were a lazy opportunist would you take the trouble to investigate the laws and demographics of gun control in order to situate yourself in a country such as you describe? Doubtful, since hand to mouth is the more likely means by which armed thugs operate..or seem to. that said...the premise need only be tested by looking at the results; A/ where is it safer, statisticly, to live Canada or USA? B/ Are people flocking to canada to set up robbing raping shops? you have unfortuately fallen for the oldets form of social cohesiveness...find a common enemy,,,,and if one can't be found, make one up and demonize ...then, arm yourself and generate an air of histeria. You have the gun now you need a reason:, rapists and robbers to protect you loved ones from, wild animals sailing trips....it gets pretty thin on logic after a short time...and remeber, i am not apposed to guns per se. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose. One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front door? Both, they are likely bluffs and even if not the one without the dog in the backyard is statisticly the one chosen, AND, if i don't have a gun my young male ego tells me i could take one from gramps and use it on him....and that is the sad statistical truth in too many instances...people kiled by their own guns becaue they are more civilised than the guy taking it from them! you have to be armed 24hrs a day then what are you protecting? not much of a life huh? rick I just don't buy the logic or ill-logic of it that's all. |
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If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in
that they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned when you leave. Seems to me the whole point would be to have them around. If you can't have that, what's the point. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "JR" wrote in message ... I am a former police officer of a small Pennsylvania town. I have an extensive collection of firearms, mostly handguns with a few hunting rifles and shotguns. If you want to break into my home and steal my guns you will have to either break open my gunsafe or carry the 1200 lb monster out my basement door. There are few robberies here as most home owners in this area do own firearms. There are a few burglaries however, usually with the perps looking for cash or electronics. More often than not any firearms are locked up or well hidden. I'm not WANTING to KILL anyone. I am WANTING to STOP anyone trying to rob or hurt me or my family. The thought of the perp being killed is secondary to STOPPING them. I do not have any firearms on my boat, but would seriously consider it if I were to sail off shore. I hope you know more about sailing than you do about firearms and their use/abuse. Otherwise you are one of the most dangerous persons on the water. To yourself and others. Respectfully and Sincerely, JR -- Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acon-pchelp.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "JR" wrote... I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing maiming robbing me or mine. How? hitting them with your purse? Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/ murderer/ gangbanger, where would you most like to ply your trade? robber=bank or 7-11 store rapist=local college girls dorm murdere=where the person I want to murder is gangbanger=local college girls dorm In a country or state where you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone MAY have such a weapon. More likely, the country that you are in. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose. One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front door? whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a desirable theft item. Computer Tips & Tweaks Builds/Upgrades/Repairs www.acorn-pchump.com hope you know more about puters than you do guns. SV |
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or for protection from animals. Not an issue in much of the country,
but can be a concern in the Canadian Rockies. any old excuse will do huh? no, if you anticipate going ashore in wilderness areas of Canada, do keep in mind that the locals are mindful of bear. There is a reason for that. Also there is a reason the State of Alaska requireds weapons on small aircraft that venture outside limited areas. If it bothers you, just take care not to go ashore, or if you do do so only when you are sure no bear might be present, paticularly bear with cubs. |
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.but fearfull men with small penis's killed tham
all from a distance. really? how do you know the men had small penises? |
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what do you know of Canadian policy and law?
seriously? I checked as recently as last week. seriously. |
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A/ where is it safer, statisticly, to live Canada or USA?
more Canadians die of freezing, more Americans die of skin cancer. |
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On 03 Apr 2004 21:07:42 GMT, JAXAshby wrote:
or for protection from animals. Not an issue in much of the country, but can be a concern in the Canadian Rockies. any old excuse will do huh? no, if you anticipate going ashore in wilderness areas of Canada, do keep in mind that the locals are mindful of bear. There is a reason for that. FGS i live here, this is pretty much the sort of thing that tells me you have no clue what you are tlaking about and that"any old excuse will do" QED. " the locals"...sheet! |
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On 03 Apr 2004 21:10:10 GMT, JAXAshby wrote:
what do you know of Canadian policy and law? seriously? I checked as recently as last week. seriously. the "law" actually is rhetorical and refers to a massive collective of...what's the use. Have a fearfull life. bye. |
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On 03 Apr 2004 21:12:23 GMT, JAXAshby wrote:
A/ where is it safer, statisticly, to live Canada or USA? more Canadians die of freezing, more Americans die of skin cancer. how mnt 'canadians' died of freezing? now i am certain you are bench racing heresy and old wives tales, a good reason to arm. |
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horse hockey.
keep in mind that the locals are mindful of bear. There is a reason for that. FGS i live here, this is pretty much the sort of thing that tells me you have no clue what you are tlaking about and that"any old excuse will do" QED. " the locals"...sheet! |
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google "bear" "attacks" "Canada" and see what Canadians think of those nice
cuddly things. FGS i live here, this is pretty much the sort of thing that tells me you have no clue what you are tlaking about |
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hey, what do you want from us. it is your law.
what do you know of Canadian policy and law? seriously? I checked as recently as last week. seriously. the "law" actually is rhetorical and refers to a massive collective of...what's the use. Have a fearfull life. bye. |
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Have a fearfull life.
bye. why do you think I have had a fearful life? I once made my living as a professional killer in the employ of my Uncle. |
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how mnt 'canadians' died of freezing?
last week? 3742.89. fewer the week before, but more the week before that. |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:32:24 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in that they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned when you leave. Do you think they search your boat when you enter a foreign country? Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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keep trying, my neighbors' dog got it.
SV "none" wrote ... you sure did but the point you made was not the point taken by me. Scott...want to try again? rick nah, I've made my point. ^ SV |
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you checked, eh?
"none" wrote ....but fearfull men with small penis's killed tham |
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shouldn't we be calling them African-American bears?
"Horvath" wrote ... Most black bears are harmless, and are afraid of people. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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Dave calls them boy.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... shouldn't we be calling them African-American bears? "Horvath" wrote ... Most black bears are harmless, and are afraid of people. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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Do you think they don't? Perhaps you're just inexperienced
in such matters. In many foreign ports, you will be boarded by the local authorities. They'll ask for a declaration of what you've got. If you claim you don't have a gun, they decide to search and find one, you could end up in a local prison. If you declare it, it will be confiscated and maybe returned when you leave (or maybe not, depending on the foreign port). In either case, you'll not have any use of it. But, feel free to take one along. Far be it from me to prevent you from going to jail again. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:32:24 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in that they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned when you leave. Do you think they search your boat when you enter a foreign country? Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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My neighbors dog, or your neighbors dog?
"none" rick the dick @ dumber than dog ****.com wrote ... So far you and the neighbors dog are intelectual equals. |
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On 04 Apr 2004 00:00:17 GMT, JAXAshby wrote: google "bear" "attacks" "Canada" and see what Canadians think of those nice cuddly things. and your handgun will do what? from your boat where? FGS i live here, this is pretty much the sort of thing that tells me you have no clue what you are tlaking about I would rather meet a bear than a sickphuk with a handgun looking desperately for a reason to use it. the bear is more preditable. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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"none" wrote
I would rather phuk a bear than a sickphuk with a handgun the bear is more preditable. typical canadjun. |
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