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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:55:09 -0000, "Donal" said:

Fact! Bush, and his friends, have made enormous profits out of the war
on
Iraq.

Would you like some more facts, Dave?

Sure.

OK!
Fact! Bush's "War on Terrorism" is a dismal failure.

Fact! Bush ignored warnings about the impending 9/11 attacks.

Fact! When Bush ordered the air strike on the restaurant in Baghdad, he
commited a war crime. That makes him as guilty as any other war criminal.

More facts, Dave?

Fact! DOD's position as to use of these pills (which is, after all the
topic
under discussion) remained unchanged through 3 administrations spanning 15
years, and both before and after extensive efforts were made to determine
the effect of using them.

Do you suppose that might be relevant in determining whether the decision
to
use the pills was motivated solely by profit as Doug hallucinates?

No!

Profit is a great motivator.

Regards

Donal
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"OzOne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:04:04 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:

I'm confused. I thought that Oz said that Agent Orange didn't cause
cancer.

Sorry, that wasn't clear from
the bald statement that dioxin doesn't cause cancer.

Once again, I think that Oz said that "Agent Orange" didn't cause cancer.

Yup, that's what I said

That's what I thought you said.

I'm just a casual observer, though. So my opinion might be invalid - even
if the record proves that I am correct.

Regards

Donal
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You mean you don't know??

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:37:28 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

It sounds to me like the Republicans are so desperate to be
in charge that they have to lie through their teeth at every
opportunity.

The relevance of that comment to the remarks made at the dinner is?
Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Joking about dead soldiers? Sorry, I don't find that funny.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:53:44 +1100, OzOne said:

Chide themselves publicly?
How about an apology to the world for the lies and deceit FIRST
then they can start to make a joke of it...the families of the dead
would appreciate the joke I'm sure.

Hey Oz, you got a direct feed from the DNC? Let's not kid ourselves about
the "families of the dead" trotted out by the spinmeisters. We know who's
pulling their strings.

Fact is, he made a series of jokes. Even the likes of NPR's Juan Williams
found them funny and appropriate in the time and place made. Only a blind
ideologue with stoppers in his ears would try to turn them into a
political
issue.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Don't have to prove it. Bush proved it. He invaded a country
on the premise that they had WMDs. It would be in his best
political interest to find them and was unable to do so.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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That's not a fact. It's your opinion. Can you prove it?

Fact! Iraq had no connections at all with Al Qaeda.

Not worth responding to because you're an idiot.

That's also your opinion. Haven't you heard of Salmon Pak?

Fact! Bush, and his friends, have made enormous profits out of the war
on
Iraq.

No. It's a fact.

That's your opinion.

Would you like some more facts, Dave?

That's a question.

I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I think you're a very poor representative of a corporate lawyer. For
one thing, you're way too thin skinned. Sounds to me like you're
now trying to defend yourself, because deep down you think you've
done something that needs defending. Poor you.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:38:23 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

More war heros. Wonderful. Lawyers are just wonderful
people, especially corporate lawyers.

Jonathan, have you ever met a corporate lawyer? Do you have the foggiest
idea what they do? Obviously not.

The folks who try cases are litigators, not corporate lawyers. And yes, a
lot of litigators are sleazy, particularly in the PI area, where I've
overhead some (not related in any way to me) coaching plaintiffs
essentially
to lie. Those are the kind I was talking about when I said in another
thread
that it's the 99% that give the other 1% of us a bad name.

In the case under discussion, I don't have a problem with the proposition
that if the guvmint asks for a specific chemical formulation and a
manufacturer supplies precisely that formulation, the financial burden
should be borne by the guvmint and ultimately the taxpayers, and not by
the
manufacturer. Unless you're a rabid Robin Hood, that proposition seems
like
simple fairness. More importantly, whether or not you agree with the
proposition it's just plain dumb to suggest that the manufacturer
shouldn't
have the chance to present the question to the court.

But of course I'm sure that in your universe lawyers are the kind of
automatic villains like Nazis, South Africans and drug manufacturers that
Hollywood hauls out when it needs in immediately recognizable bad guy.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Chow down. Take a swim. Nothing will make you dumber than
you already are.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 00:04:37 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:

I still think that he said that Agent Orange didn't cause cancer.

Agent Orange doesn't cause cancer. It's still sold today. I can go
into a farm supply store and buy it. Farmers put it on the food you
eat.

I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Apparently.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:42:03 +1000, OzOne said:

"Agent Orange doesn't cause cancer"

You must be a wizz at English if that needs clarification.

Let's say I have a lot of experience recognizing an ambiguous statement.
We've already identified three things you may have meant. I'm sure you
know
what you meant by it, but which one of the three isn't apparent to the
casual observer.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Sorry, but you'll need to prove you know. I don't think you do.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:09:31 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

You mean you don't know??

My question, Jonathan, was what's called a rhetorical question. Of course
I
know. Your remark had absolutely nothing, zero, zip to do with the topic
under discussion.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Oh. I see. Joking about the death of hundreds of troops is
a funny thing. I guess that goes along with being a racist.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:10:10 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Sorry, I don't find that funny.

Ah, there's always a blind ideologue with stoppers in his ears.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27