Yeh, we saw your multiple cross posts once already. Give it rest.

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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in
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I had an opportunity to sail on two boats of the same hull in the last
few weeks. One had a three-point system (two multi-purchase blocks -
about the same hardware as a vang - secured to the opposing ends of the
cabin roof and the end of the boom), and the other a traveler, for the
main.

The surveyor likes the three-point, saying that's all they use on the
serious racers, as it gives a great deal more control to the sail shape.
Indeed, the boat seemed to sail better, even in lighter winds, to me,
with him trimming, than the one with the traveler. Everyone else,
though, seems to prefer the traveler.

Anyone here who has had one and changed to the other? If so, why the
change, and what did you think of it?

Any strong opinions formed out of OPB (other people's boats') experience
any of you can share?

(We're considering purchasing a boat which has a minimal - perhaps 3
feet - traveler mounted inside the boom gallows and are pondering either
a full-length cabin-top traveler or three-point system to replace it.
It also has a preventer which, I suppose, could act as a 3-point when
downhauled over the genny traveler rail...)

Thanks.

L8R

Skip and Lydia, inching closer to our purchase

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain


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quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as
self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and
one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin

joony, how you doing on finding someone with AIDS and no scruples yet wants to
do the world a favor, someone to introduce to richard tomlinson?

I'm sure you would be perfect for it.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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joony, how you doing on finding someone with AIDS and no scruples yet
wants to
do the world a favor, someone to introduce to richard tomlinson?

no, joony. I wouldn't be perfect for it at all. you see, alas and alack, I do
not have AIDS. what's even more regretable is that I don't know anyone with
AIDS. Made even worse by the fact I don't anyone at all who has no scrupples.

you were are hope, joony. and you have failed us.

btw, joony since you like the guy so much and his feelings of right and wrong
and he does seem to be the "not the marrying kind" type, you and he might get
together.

I'm sure you would be perfect for it.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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joony, how you doing on finding someone with AIDS and no scruples yet
wants to
do the world a favor, someone to introduce to richard tomlinson?

"Skip Gundlach" wrote...
I had an opportunity to sail on two boats of the same hull in the last
few weeks. One had a three-point system (two multi-purchase blocks -
about the same hardware as a vang - secured to the opposing ends of the
cabin roof and the end of the boom), and the other a traveler, for the
main.

The surveyor likes the three-point, saying that's all they use on the
serious racers, as it gives a great deal more control to the sail shape.

That guy is so full of crap his eyes were probably brown.

"Serious racers" use a three point mainsheet? I guess that leaves out
the America's Cup boats, one-design boats, IMS boats, Melges 24s, sleds,
J-105s, screaming multihulls, etc etc. In fact I can't think of one boat
that is even partly race-oriented that uses a three point mainsheet system.

With two seperate tackles to opposite sides, as you seem to imply, you
can indeed get more or less leach tension on the mainsail. But to trim
the sail you have to adjust both lines. With a traveler, you can set the
leach tension as you want it, and then just run the travler back and forth.

Actually, a really good system is a bridle & vang. If you look at
"serious racers" among small boats like Int'l 14s, 18-foot skiffs, and
the like, that's all you'll see. It's very light and easy to control.
But it hasn't caught on in big boats, probably because when the bridle
flops around it would tend to take big chunks out of things if scaled up
to say a 40 footer.

Skip, I'd ask you for the name of this surveyor but it might not be a
good idea on this forum. Just forward this to him by email, please.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Jax, deny it all you want, but we know you have that horrible disease.
Don't feel bad, no one lives forever.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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no, joony. I wouldn't be perfect for it at all. you see, alas and alack,
I do
not have AIDS. what's even more regretable is that I don't know anyone
with
AIDS. Made even worse by the fact I don't anyone at all who has no
scrupples.

you were are hope, joony. and you have failed us.

btw, joony since you like the guy so much and his feelings of right and
wrong
and he does seem to be the "not the marrying kind" type, you and he might
get
together.

I'm sure you would be perfect for it.

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www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
joony, how you doing on finding someone with AIDS and no scruples yet
wants to
do the world a favor, someone to introduce to richard tomlinson?