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Traveling Man
["Followup-To:" header set to rec.boats.cruising.]
On 2004-03-12, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:42:16 GMT, "Skip Gundlach" u wrote: The latter - like two vang hardware setups, at the end of the boom, one each to the opposite sides of the cabin roof - and, I suppose, you could go one better and put them on the genny rail if it had a hook place, or a slotted toe rail, if that's what you have (ours doesn't) for the widest dispersion of downhaul capability. ====================== The best place for the vang in my opinion is from the boom (about 25% out from the gooseneck) leading down to the mast, just above the cabin top. This requires some fairly rugged fittings on both boom and mast but the vang tacks and jibes automatically with no intervention needed. [...] At the risk of mentioning some mathematics (gasp!), I'ts interesting to analyze some loads. Here goes: First let the boom have length B, and the goosneck-to-vang-attachment point have length 1. (Use meters, or feet, or some other imaginary unit to make this be 1, OK?) Suppose that the force on the boom is entirely applied at the ends (as it is, say, in my Tornado, where there's a cringle at the tack and something that looks a little like a headboard at the clew; this is attached to a little traveller that runs along the boom. The remainder of the foot of the sail is not attached ot the boom at all. This is also, to some degree, the case for my old sloop, where the foot of the main has a substantial shelf in it, so that the sail is more or less tangent to the cylinderical boom over most of its length, excepting the ends). Suppose the force at the clew end, upwards, is F. The forces from the vang are decomposed into vertical (pulling down on the boom), called G_v, and horizontal, trying to push the boom forward, called G_h. At the mast attachment points, the forces are opposite: G_v pulling "up" on the mast, and G_h trying to rip the into-the-mast bolts out along their axes. The attachment point is at a fraction u of the way from the goosneck to the clew. In Wayne's example above, u is 0.25. Because the boom looks like a lever, F * b = G_v * u * b; so G_v = (1/u) * F. (1) Since 0 = u = 1, it's clear that G_v is generally larger than F. Because the triangle formed by the boom, vang, and mast has the vang as its hypotenuse, a little vector filddling shows that G_h/G_v = (u* b) / 1 so we get G_h = u * b ( (1/u) * F [see equation 1] = b * F The horizontal force on the boom is independent of the attachment point. The total force on the vang is i sqrt(G_h^2 + G_v^2) = (F/u) * sqrt(1 + b^2) Note, then, that as u gets small, this goes up insanely large. In fact it's clear that from a loading point of view, u = 1 is optimal. From a convenience point of view, it has some drawbacks -- that diagonal line trying to take your head off during a jib being one of them! By the way, once you attach the vang, when you pull the back end of the boom up with a force of F, the goosneck of the boom is pushed DOWN with a force of F (1-u)/u. (Think of a see-saw with the boom-to-vang joint as the fulcrum). If you use a lot of downhaul, maybe this means you don't have to work so hard (unless u = 1). There's also the matter of deflection of the boom resulting from applying these forces at various points. If you've got a skinny boom that's really loaded mostly in compression, and designed for that sort of load, you could easily bust it using a u of 0.1; I haven't worked out the details, but it's clear that u = 1.0 presents no bending moment on the boom at all (although it still tends to tack off your head during a jibe). My recommendation, based on all this? 1. Get the bottom of the vang as low as possible. 2. Get the top of the vang as far aft as you can for convenience and safety. Remember that 1/u rule: 25% of the boom gives 4F loading; 33% of the boom gives 3F loading, etc. 3. If your setup cannot handle this, consider what we do in trying to support tall masts: instead of running a wire to the masthead directly, we run two of them -- lowers and uppers -- and it works somewhat better. It's possible that a "double vang" system could work where a single one failed. (It'd have to be custom made, of course...) -John Hughes |