"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:



Whats the name of the book you wrote?

You could try following the link that he posted.

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country" and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US war
machine.

In article , Ric
wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:



Whats the name of the book you wrote?

You could try following the link that he posted.

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country" and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US war
machine.

Lot of truth in that. The USA asserts the right to search US registered
vessels anywhere, any time, in international waters. Somehow it escapes
the right wing nutcases like CA that this violates US citizens' right
to be free from arbitrary search. Was all about the WOD of course,
which is hopelessly lost. BTW, apparently the British granted the USA
rights to do the same thing for Brit registered vessels and for all I
know, Australia as well. Wouldn't surprise me.

WRT attitudes there was a book published recently by an Australian
woman. She was a left wing bleeding heart who I'd argue with instantly
but some of her observations on US boats & attitudes were interesting.
Can't remember the title, lent it to a friend of mine so I could
develop a good argument topic next time we had a dinner party :-)

NZ is a nice backward country but from stuff Navvie posted, I think
registering a boat there would be a mistake. They have a nanny approach
to blue water sailing which Navvie is happy about and thinks a good
idea, but would drive most people insane. Probably be OK if you never
took the vessel into NZ waters. Surely a local address couldn't be too
hard to arrange, though they might want to see what you're trying to
register.

If you're going to take the boat out of the USA ASAP, try the Cook
Islands or similar. As a NZ citizen you might find registering it there
relatively simple - pay and forget. Panama possibly?

Peter Wiley

Peter Wiley wrote:
Lot of truth in that. The USA asserts the right to search US registered
vessels anywhere, any time, in international waters.

AFAIK the USCG asserts it's rights to search any vessel, anywhere,
priod. Nationality of register does not enter the equation. Quite a few
countries don't agree, and for the most part, the USCG doesn't get in
their face about it. Although there have been a few cases under 'hot
pursuit' doctrine.


... Somehow it escapes
the right wing nutcases like CA that this violates US citizens' right
to be free from arbitrary search.

It doesn't escape them, it's just more comfortable to ignore it.
Besides, not even the US Constition guarantees the same freedoms on the
water to those on land.


WRT attitudes there was a book published recently by an Australian
woman. She was a left wing bleeding heart who I'd argue with instantly
but some of her observations on US boats & attitudes were interesting.


Like what?

If you're going to take the boat out of the USA ASAP, try the Cook
Islands or similar. As a NZ citizen you might find registering it there
relatively simple - pay and forget. Panama possibly?

Possibly, but re-registering an American boat in Panama might be a red
flag to the drug war troops.

There is a huge expat poppulation in the Caribbean, and most of them
seem to have boats. I don't know what they do about registry, but it
might be worth looking into.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Ric" wrote in message ...
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:



Whats the name of the book you wrote?

You could try following the link that he posted.

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country"

Whats wrong crybaby, no ones stupid enough to have a traitor for a
citizen?


and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it

Then dont buy it douch bag! Keep your sticking money.

as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US war
machine.

Kiss my ass dick breath, I had waves and friendly conversation from
boats and people from all over this earth. Sounds like the USCG needs
to be inspecting traitors like you, no telling what your stealing or
who your selling out.. Do us all a favor and stay out of US waters,
your not welcome. Your Un-desireable.

I just hope the National security office picks up on you.

Key words for echelon NIS, CIA, FBI : Bomb-nuclear-Bio dirty . End of
Key words

Please investigate this mans (Ric the author) actions he is an
undesireable alien , track him down and ship him to gitmo.

Capt. American


Capt. American

Here are some keywords for you: ASSHOLE, STUPID

No need to investigate. It's an observable fact.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.American" wrote in message
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"Ric" wrote in message
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:



Whats the name of the book you wrote?

You could try following the link that he posted.

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country"

Whats wrong crybaby, no ones stupid enough to have a traitor for a
citizen?


and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it

Then dont buy it douch bag! Keep your sticking money.

as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want
the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US
war
machine.

Kiss my ass dick breath, I had waves and friendly conversation from
boats and people from all over this earth. Sounds like the USCG needs
to be inspecting traitors like you, no telling what your stealing or
who your selling out.. Do us all a favor and stay out of US waters,
your not welcome. Your Un-desireable.

I just hope the National security office picks up on you.

Key words for echelon NIS, CIA, FBI : Bomb-nuclear-Bio dirty . End of
Key words

Please investigate this mans (Ric the author) actions he is an
undesireable alien , track him down and ship him to gitmo.

Capt. American


Capt. American

a real estate lawyer and you are preaching about admiralty law?

try telling it to the CG judges, "the courts" in this case, and see if they
agree.

you generalized your specifics, davy, to the universal. it is a dumb mistake
to make for someone with "30 years experience" even if it is in real estate, or
wills, or incorporations, or matrimonial, or literary, or patents, or defending
DWI's.

Try telling it to the CG judges and see how long you keep the documentation.

dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by
the
courts.

Don't need to, Jax. I've been a practicing lawyer for 30 years, and the term
"control" and its meaning comes up about once a week in my practice areas.
Matter of fact, I've written 3 legal memoranda in the last month on the
meaning of "control" under various statutes and regulations.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

On 11 Mar 2004 16:35:30 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

a real estate lawyer and you are preaching about admiralty law?

try telling it to the CG judges, "the courts" in this case, and see if they
agree.

you generalized your specifics, davy, to the universal. it is a dumb mistake
to make for someone with "30 years experience" even if it is in real estate, or
wills, or incorporations, or matrimonial, or literary, or patents, or defending
DWI's.

Try telling it to the CG judges and see how long you keep the documentation.

You are the one who posted some legal verbage in which it is clear to
all but you that the words "effective control" related to ownership,
not the casual operation of a recreational vessel. If you know of a
specific case that illustrates your contention, why not post it? I
have a hard time believing that if I were to allow my Italian friend
to sail my boat, I would put my documentation in jeopardy.

I'll try and keep my anxiety under control until the confusion is
resolved

dave, *I* suggest you take a look at the word "control" as interpreted by
the
courts.

Don't need to, Jax. I've been a practicing lawyer for 30 years, and the term
"control" and its meaning comes up about once a week in my practice areas.
Matter of fact, I've written 3 legal memoranda in the last month on the
meaning of "control" under various statutes and regulations.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

I
have a hard time believing that if I were to allow my Italian friend
to sail my boat, I would put my documentation in jeopardy.

try it. go ahead.

Ric wrote:

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country" and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US war
machine.


You could try registering it in my province, Ontario. When I registered my boat
all they wanted was the bill of sale and the GST, (8%), didn't ask where I was
from, or for ID for that matter. This is not the same as documentation, but you
get a nice little certificate that says that you are the owner of the vessel and that
it is registered in Canada. You then must put a set of letters and numbers on the
side of the vessel.

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter wrote in message ...
Ric wrote:

Forgive him, he's obviously a bit thick as I also explained that I don't
really have a "home country" and I would also far rather not have it under
US flag if I can avoid it as I quite like to have boats of other
nationalities give me a friendly waive as they pass, and I don't want the
USCG messing me around and I don't want to contribute my money to the US war
machine.


You could try registering it in my province, Ontario. When I registered my boat
all they wanted was the bill of sale and the GST, (8%), didn't ask where I was
from, or for ID for that matter. This is not the same as documentation, but you
get a nice little certificate that says that you are the owner of the vessel and that
it is registered in Canada.

Great, Thanks Martin. You kanooks are some of the most backstabbing
*******s
on the planet. Bet you were busy shuffeling draft dodger during
Vietnam. Now your trying to aid a wanted traitor, who told all in a
"Easy to put down book"

With your types it's no wonder terriorist like to come in the USA via
Canada.

You must be a French Kanook.

Capt. American



You then must put a set of letters and numbers on the
side of the vessel.

Cheers
Marty