In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Jim Cate wrote:

As discussed in other subject strings, I'm looking at 30 to 35-foot used
boats such as Cals, O'Days, Catalinas, etc. My intended use would be for
day sailing and sailing offshore near the coast in the Texas Gulf. As
mentioned, offshore sailing would probably require four or five days in
our area because of the distances involved.

Although I know it all depends on the person, the crew, the
circumstances, the boat, etc., have there been any studies or surveys
that might provide some idea of how many days of sailing per year an
owner of such a boat typically gets, particularly after the first year?
Again, it's obvious that it all depends, on the person, the individual
circumstances, his work load, etc., and that there can be no
generalizations. (No need to tell me this. - It's pretty self-evident.)
Still, there may have been some polls or surveys, or at least, some
general experience and consensus regarding the question. The reason for
asking is that, though I'm anxious to get out to the blue water, I'm
wondering whether I would be the exception to what seems to be the
general rule in this area, in which the boats seem to sit in their slips
for 99.9 percent of the time. For example, one of the brokers I spoke
with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years. - Any estimates, guesses?

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim

Nice Troll!

John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer. Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the summer I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the yard next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of making any
headway if there was a small chop.

I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at $30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

Well, he's stupid. What can one say....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer.
Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that
maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having
anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After
our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the summer
I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose
from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the yard
next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its
predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but
anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of
making any
headway if there was a small chop.

I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at
$30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left
over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one
of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

Jeff Morris wrote:

So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Nope. It was the fact that no one on the ng had sailed the boat and few
even knew what changes had been incorporated in the 26M. Yet everyone
knew exactly what the boat would be like.

Jim




Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer. Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the summer I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the yard next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of making any
headway if there was a small chop.


Obviously, I can't explain why these owners didn't sail their boat.

Jim



I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at $30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:


"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

It was blatantly obvious what it would be like.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jeff Morris wrote:

So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to
say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Nope. It was the fact that no one on the ng had sailed the boat and few
even knew what changes had been incorporated in the 26M. Yet everyone
knew exactly what the boat would be like.

Jim




Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer.
Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that
maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having
anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After
our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the
summer I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose
from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the
yard next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its
predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but
anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of
making any
headway if there was a small chop.


Obviously, I can't explain why these owners didn't sail their boat.

Jim



I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at
$30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left
over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:


"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one
of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

It was blatantly obvious what it would be like.

Actually, if you haven't sailed the boat, it's blatantly obious that you
don't know what the hell you are talking about. The new model has a
completely different hull, different keel arrangment, different rigging,
etc., etc., etc. As I have note previously, this doesn't mean that
the new boat is a good boat. It does mean that it's a different boat.


Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

You got the next best thing, good advice, including taking one for a test
sail, which you pointedly ignored. Based on the content of your posts one
could only reasonably conclude that they were either a troll or spam. The
only other conclusions one could come to would be that you are an extremely
inexperienced sailor, an extremely gullible individual, or both.
Good luck, you'll need it.
John Cairns

John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim


You got the next best thing, good advice, including taking one for a test
sail, which you pointedly ignored. Based on the content of your posts one
could only reasonably conclude that they were either a troll or spam. The
only other conclusions one could come to would be that you are an extremely
inexperienced sailor, an extremely gullible individual, or both.
Good luck, you'll need it.
John Cairns


I'll need lots of luck?

Am I going to be swamped? Is my Mac going to sink to the bottom of the
bay? (Actually, no. The Mac has enough flotation to keep the boat and
multiple passengers afloat.)

Am I going to have to spend $5,000 for blister treatment and bottom
refinishing? (Nope. Not if the boat is out of the water most of the time.)

Am I going to have stuck through-hulls, and rising water from an unknown
leak in a hose connected to one of the throughull valves? (Nope. The
hull doesn't need them.)

Am I going to have to spend $5,000 overhauling the diesel? (Nope. It
comes with a new outboard.)

Is the boat going to capsize, or is the standing rigging going to come
loose such that the boat founders or flips over? (I haven't seen many
news reports this year about any Mac sailors losing their lives.)

Am I going to go aground, and is the boat going to flip over on its
side and require expensive rescue services? (Probably not, since it can
float in 12 inches of water or can be motored onto a beach if desired.)

Am I going to be stranded off-shore in unexpected weather conditions? -
(Actually, since the boat can motor back at 18 mph, it has a better
chance of getting back to shore faster than a displacement boat. - I'll
also pay careful attention to weather conditions, of course, and intend
to be more conservative about going out in marginal conditions.)

Do I need to plan on loosing lots and lots of money from depreciation of
the boat? (Perhaps. But demand for the new model continues to greatly
exceed the supply. By comparison, most of the displacement boats we
looked at had depreciated over 80% to 90%, when adjusted for inflation.
Also, less money is being committed in the first place, so there is less
on the table that could be lost.)

Of course, it's also possible that the earth may get hit in the next few
months by an invisible space ship heading our way from somewhere in the
Virgo constellation, initiating a new 1,000-year ice age. - Gee. Hope my
luck holds out and I can get some sailing in before the impact.

Jim