Probably in jail or on a shoal somewhere.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
That reminds me, any guesses as to where Neal is?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Nah... there are plenty of otherwise homeless people who "own"
boats in this area. They live on them until either finding something
better, the boat sinks, or they get hassled by the local authorities.

Of course, the rest is true.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Marc" wrote in message
...
And now for the real world:

Money has everything to do with boat ownership. Very few with out
funds own boats.

Money determines the boat size, style and age.
Money determines how much maintenence you perform.
Money determines how you equip the boat.
Money determines the amount and quality of upgrades.
Money determines when and how often you use the boat.
Money determines where you keep the boat.

If you have a work boat, of course its about the money.
If you have a pleasure boat, likewise.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:47:18 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


"John Cairns" wrote in message
news
Owning a sailboat is not a "rational" decision, it
is just something that you do or don't do, depending mainly on how
much
you
love to sail.



Wise words!


Boat ownership is nothing at all to do with money (for real sailors).



Regards


Donal

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"katysails" wrote ...
Jim observed:

-- Many of them seem to find their use tapering off over
time, and finally selling their boat after realizing they aren't using
it as they had anticipated

I could say the same thing about my wife. But I won't.

Is that your wife's fault? ........... or yours?




Regards

Donal
--

Jeff asked: That reminds me, any guesses as to where Neal is?

Bahamas....under a banana tree....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Marc" wrote in message
...
And now for the real world:

Money has everything to do with boat ownership. Very few with out
funds own boats.

Wow, how long did it take you to figure that out?

John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Hey asshole. You don't need to post the same message over and
over again. By definition, that makes you an asshole .. or dumb...
you pick.


Hey idiot! If I get the same biased, unsubstantiated, stupid bleeting
over and over and over again, it's only logical to post the same damned
answer over and over again. Anything else would be inapplicable and non
responsive.

Jim

Jim said: If I get the same biased, unsubstantiated, stupid bleeting
over and over and over again you'd think I'd get the message and shut up....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer. Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the summer I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the yard next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of making any
headway if there was a small chop.

I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at $30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Hey asshole. You don't need to post the same message over and
over again. By definition, that makes you an asshole .. or dumb...
you pick.


Hey idiot! If I get the same biased, unsubstantiated, stupid bleeting
over and over and over again, it's only logical to post the same damned
answer over and over again. Anything else would be inapplicable and non
responsive.

Jim

Well, he's stupid. What can one say....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So the fact that of a group of dedicated sailors, no one is willing to say
anything nice about the boat was enough to convince you that its a wise
purchase. Yup, that makes sense.


Actually, the other sailboat on my dock is Mac 26M, new last summer.
Since the
family has two kids about the same age as my daughter I was hoping that
maybe we
could meet up in the harbor sometime. The guy talked about having
anchored out
for a weekend, so I thought maybe they'd be using the boat some. After
our
first chat I never saw the boat leave the slip. By the end of the summer
I had
to go on board to secure the boom and other things that had worked loose
from
rolling (we are in an absolute flat hurricane hole).

I got to walk by it everytime I went to my boat, and now it's in the yard
next
to mine, so I see it a lot. It looks like the same junk as its
predecessor.
Since it never goes out, I haven't had a chance to see it perform, but
anything
would be a step up from the previous model, which seemed incapable of
making any
headway if there was a small chop.

I suppose there is some situation where the boat makes sense, though at
$30K you
could have had a far nicer powerboat, and sill had plenty of money left
over to
charter a proper sailboat.



"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In the interest of full disclosure, I recently placed an order for one
of the new 26M boats. Having carefully studied all the helpful advice
and unbiased reports posted on this and other newsgroups, it became
obvious to me that the Mac 26M was definitely the best choice in the
under $75,000 price range for my intended applications. So, I'm one
of
the lucky few who will be able to take delivery of this wonderful new
model in the next few months, since demand far exeeds the supply, and
deliveries are normally several months behind schedule.

Thanks to all for the helpful and educational advice.

Jim


Nice Troll!

The truth is that I had actually hoped to get some substantive
information from contributors on this ng who had sailed the 26M or
spoken to otherw who had. I finally gave up on this one, and placed my
order for the 26M last week.

Jim