On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:26:40 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:

Not according to my source. Thinking about it, I'm not sure who the
Scots were at that time - Picts? Albans?

As far as I know St. Pat was a Briton, raised (until age 16) in the
Roman tradition. His mother tongue may have been something like Welsh.


Try Latin. Romans, and Catholics, spoke Latin.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath, Horvath, Horvath....
People from Rome did not speak Latin. Latin was a formal language used to
write and to deliver speech. The common vernacular of the day was more like
an ancient Italian. Latin was used only for scholarly things...like
speaking in the Senate....you must have had inferior nuns where you went to
school that you didn't learn that....

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:26:40 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:

Not according to my source. Thinking about it, I'm not sure who the
Scots were at that time - Picts? Albans?

As far as I know St. Pat was a Briton, raised (until age 16) in the
Roman tradition. His mother tongue may have been something like Welsh.


Try Latin. Romans, and Catholics, spoke Latin.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father,
a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.


He was never Irish. He was Roman.

Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.



Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message ...
Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father,
a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.


He was never Irish. He was Roman.

Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.



Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.

He was never Irish. He was Roman.

maybe he romed to Ireland.
Scout

Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's family
was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle class or
higher. The fact that his father was a local official and they had
Latin names means little.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father,
a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their
lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.



He was never Irish. He was Roman.


Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.




Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

You should read some history books of the British Isles. Only
Roman citizens could hold office in the British Isles when
the Roman Empire held sway.

But, we are getting off the subject which subject is St. Patrick
was Scottish, not Irish. He was born in Scotland.

CN

There is one very good one
"Jeff" wrote in message ...
Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's family was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle
class or higher. The fact that his father was a local official and they had Latin names means little.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message ...

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father, a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's
Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.



He was never Irish. He was Roman.


Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.




Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Actually, the Gaelic name is Padraic....

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father, a
local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.


He was never Irish. He was Roman.

Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.



Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Being a Roman citizen didn't mean you hailed from Rome. Even the Jews
were considered Roman citizens, though not by Patrick's time.

Capt. Neal® wrote:

You should read some history books of the British Isles. Only
Roman citizens could hold office in the British Isles when
the Roman Empire held sway.

But, we are getting off the subject which subject is St. Patrick
was Scottish, not Irish. He was born in Scotland.

CN

There is one very good one
"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's family
was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle class or
higher. The fact that his father was a local official and they had
Latin names means little.

Capt. Neal® wrote:



Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his
father, a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's
Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was
Irish?


Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their
lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.




He was never Irish. He was Roman.



Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.





Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Sorry, Jeff, but Jews in the British Isles were considered persona non grata
in Roman times. Do some reading, please.

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message ...
Being a Roman citizen didn't mean you hailed from Rome. Even the Jews were considered Roman citizens, though not by Patrick's
time.

Capt. Neal® wrote:

You should read some history books of the British Isles. Only
Roman citizens could hold office in the British Isles when
the Roman Empire held sway.

But, we are getting off the subject which subject is St. Patrick
was Scottish, not Irish. He was born in Scotland.

CN

There is one very good one
"Jeff" wrote in message ...

Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's family was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle
class or higher. The fact that his father was a local official and they had Latin names means little.

Capt. Neal® wrote:



Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message ...

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father, a local functionary for Rome, might have use his
father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American. The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.




He was never Irish. He was Roman.



Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.





Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!