Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000 worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a $6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Sorry Jax, but no solar panels are required. The bats are much, much
less than that, and it'll push the boat at hull speed with no noise and
virtually no vibration. No oil changes, no fuel stops. Switch out the
bats every three or four years.

Do you know anything about anything?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000
worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead
acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a
$6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell
some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

ah, and the "batts" are charge how?

They're charged by the prop spinning while sailing.

This isn't the only one, but check this web site for more
info.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, and the "batts" are charge how?

On 03 Mar 2004 22:37:16 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000 worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a $6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

Did you even visit the website? They are discussing hydrogen fuel
cell technology, not lead acid batteries driving an electric motor. I
believe you have missed the point they are trying to demonstrate.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

and the storage batteries to hold the amps until you can break down water is
where? And how are they recharged?

It *IS* perpetual motion to suggest that breaking down water into hydrogen and
then "burning" the hydrogen to produce power AND amps to break down th hydrogen

If you want 400 hp-hours of energy output, you have to have at least 400
hp-hours energy input.

simple fact of physics: TANSTAAFL

(JAXAshby) wrote:

jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000
worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a
$6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

Did you even visit the website? They are discussing hydrogen fuel
cell technology, not lead acid batteries driving an electric motor. I
believe you have missed the point they are trying to demonstrate.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

JAXAshby wrote:

and the storage batteries to hold the amps until you can break down water is
where? And how are they recharged?

It *IS* perpetual motion to suggest that breaking down water into hydrogen and
then "burning" the hydrogen to produce power AND amps to break down th hydrogen

If you want 400 hp-hours of energy output, you have to have at least 400
hp-hours energy input.


While I agree that the scheme is somewhat harebrained, and likely taken as
whole comes out on the negative side energy wise; why store the energy in
a chemical battery, why not use it to break the bonds in the H2O molecule
and store the gasses? I think the energy required by the pumps to accomplish
this would probably be sufficient to cause the whole wacky idea to come acropper.

Cheers
Marty