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I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the
system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for
rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore
to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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Sure. Whatever you say. I'm sure the people in the mental
hospital really want you back soon. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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Sure. Whatever you say. I'm sure the people in the mental
hospital really want you back soon. Why are you sure of that? The only time I have ever seen the inside of a mental hospital was when the high school senior class was taken to one as part of the state's required course work to scare the seniors into not making babies. That was a VERY long time ago. I can't imagine that anyone would even remember I was there even a week later, let alone decades later. In fact, likely is that most of those people who ran the place are long since dead. Jonny, do you know something about the inside of mental hospitals you haven't told us about? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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I am sure. You're clearly a mental case. You can claim you've
done or not done this or that, but mostly, you're full of sh*t. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... Sure. Whatever you say. I'm sure the people in the mental hospital really want you back soon. Why are you sure of that? The only time I have ever seen the inside of a mental hospital was when the high school senior class was taken to one as part of the state's required course work to scare the seniors into not making babies. That was a VERY long time ago. I can't imagine that anyone would even remember I was there even a week later, let alone decades later. In fact, likely is that most of those people who ran the place are long since dead. Jonny, do you know something about the inside of mental hospitals you haven't told us about? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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At night, offshore? No you haven't, you may have been lucky but not using
safe practices, there fore not in utter safety. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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![]() "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... at night, offshore and in utter safety. As much safety as if I were walking down 5th Avenue in NYC at 10:00 at night. Jax, we've seen your photo. We know that you would be safe walking down 5th Avenue in NYC at 10:00 at night. maybe *you* wouldn't be safe on a deck at night -- offshore OR coastal --, but you know your limitations better than we do. Please don't claim that because *you* can't walk on a deck without falling off that the entire rest of the world can't either. So, you are saying that you are only 5' 5" tall?? Regards Donal -- |
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All you show here is inexperience with safe practices, good seamanship, and
you are a hazard to newbies who might mistakenly believe you know what you are talking about. The practice you have described here is inherently UNSAFE. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... at night, offshore and in utter safety. As much safety as if I were walking down 5th Avenue in NYC at 10:00 at night. maybe *you* wouldn't be safe on a deck at night -- offshore OR coastal --, but you know your limitations better than we do. Please don't claim that because *you* can't walk on a deck without falling off that the entire rest of the world can't either. From: "The Carrolls" At night, offshore? No you haven't, you may have been lucky but not using safe practices, there fore not in utter safety. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... jonny, you stupid, clumsy, spastic clod. I have gone forward at night offshore to change headsails without a harness or jackline in utter safety. You, on the other hand, would fall overboard. Yep... it's better to have two (one short and one so you can stand) for rough conditions. As you say, jacklines in sections is the ticket. Also, don't forget the instruction to the crew. For example, when off shore, the rule was that you must be hooked on when you exit the cabin at night. During the day, this is true only in rough weather. I have the SOSpenders with the integrated harness. Why do you think a separate system is better? "Michael" wrote in message ... I mentioned earlier that the lifeline is only one integral part of the system and then included stanchions and Doug brought in the issue of stanchion bases. Finally we mentioned jacklines. But's thats' not all of it. A word on harnesses and tethers. Again this is of interest only for those who go where they are needed, or those who need them regardless of where they go. Tethers. I was tempted once upon a time to use one long one. Then I had occasion to test what it was like to be dragged alongside a self steering boat and try to get back on board. Not a pretty picture. No it wasn't an accident it was a tested conducted at speeds from one to seven knots. Based on that days work we came up with the following: Use short tethers. That coupled to a centered jackline will keep you from going over. Use two tethers in heavy weather. Snap in to the next section of jackline before unsnapping the first one. In the worksite use both. Use snaplinks that are positive locking. The best one's don't come from the marine stores. Go to a store specializing in gear for blue collar folks. My personal favorite isWork Wear in Lynwood WA. Harnesses. The SOSpenders and the stand alone harnesses are neat, comfortable and do the job PROVIDING they don't pop open. The kind with the buckle that goes through an opening sideways then falls into place is not worth the money. On our fullharnesses we use the kind where the chest and leg straps are a sturdy belt buckle arrangement or a positive snap link with safety release arrangement. For going aloft or for veryheavy weather I use the industrial kind withtheleg straps. On these the tether goes in the middle of the back or to two chest rings. For standard work around the boat I had my comfortable chest only harness modified with positive snap hooks to ensure it wouldn't come undone. This sort of gear also makes it easy for other crew to get you back on board or lower you down from an aloft worksite. Stay away from the belt only kind for deck or going aloft purposes. These are banned from commercial ships anymore. Sudden falls to tether end save the sailor from going over but damage the spinal cord severely. When choosing your gear keep this in mind. No one is going to show up in a few minutes when you are way out there. What you have with you is all you have. Tools not Toys. And those who choose to use none of the above won't be out to help you either. M. |
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