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almost. I grew up in Min ah SOW tah.
You be from canaduh now? Aye aye skipper. SV "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... "Aye" in my spelling rhymes with "hey" in my pronounciation. Hungover? Who's DONIL ? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... huh? scoots, it is 10 o'clock in Sunday morning and you can't read whatz writ? Cripes jax! sober up before you type. "JAXAshby" wrote ... Name 5. 1.) Dee 2.) Oh 3.) Enn 4.) Aye 5.) Elle |
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JAXAshby wrote:
dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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What part? Are you a ranger or from down South somewhere?
"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... almost. I grew up in Min ah SOW tah. You be from canaduh now? Aye aye skipper. SV "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... "Aye" in my spelling rhymes with "hey" in my pronounciation. Hungover? Who's DONIL ? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... huh? scoots, it is 10 o'clock in Sunday morning and you can't read whatz writ? Cripes jax! sober up before you type. "JAXAshby" wrote ... Name 5. 1.) Dee 2.) Oh 3.) Enn 4.) Aye 5.) Elle |
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Sorry Nutsy,
I must agree with Jon. Jax's comments about lifelines and racing are nothing but stupidity. I've never seen rails on Etchells, Lightnings, Soling, Stars, Snipes, Hobies, Toradoes, Cal 25, Col 20, etc all racing sailboats For Jax to claim all racing boats require lifeline add absolutely nothing to this discussion. Any racing boat that has the possibility to capsize is better off without lifelines, to get hung up in underwater. There are times and reasons when Lifelines SHOULD NOT BE USED!!! When you are working the High side and a gust hit you and causes a 45 degree heel, leeside buried in water and you're sailing thru the air, tell me how high the lifelines should be?? Ole Thom |
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No. He's just an idiot.
"Michael" wrote in message ... What part? Are you a ranger or from down South somewhere? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... almost. I grew up in Min ah SOW tah. You be from canaduh now? Aye aye skipper. SV "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... "Aye" in my spelling rhymes with "hey" in my pronounciation. Hungover? Who's DONIL ? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... huh? scoots, it is 10 o'clock in Sunday morning and you can't read whatz writ? Cripes jax! sober up before you type. "JAXAshby" wrote ... Name 5. 1.) Dee 2.) Oh 3.) Enn 4.) Aye 5.) Elle |
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keep trying.
"JAXAshby" wrote ... almost grew up in Min ah SOW tah. |
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Mip Lus, Wayzata, Plymouth.
What part? Are you a ranger or from down South somewhere? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... almost. I grew up in Min ah SOW tah. You be from canaduh now? Aye aye skipper. SV "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... "Aye" in my spelling rhymes with "hey" in my pronounciation. Hungover? Who's DONIL ? "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... huh? scoots, it is 10 o'clock in Sunday morning and you can't read whatz writ? Cripes jax! sober up before you type. "JAXAshby" wrote ... Name 5. 1.) Dee 2.) Oh 3.) Enn 4.) Aye 5.) Elle |
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dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion?
dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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ole fart, we were in fact discussing racing a Cal 20, but your mind can't keep
up. in addition: When you are working the High side and a gust hit you and causes a 45 degree heel, leeside buried in water and you're sailing thru the air, tell me how high the lifelines should be?? nothing, for you are dead anyway because you are going in the drink and nobody is going to get you back onboard. |
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6. Lunar Distances
Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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How about:
Depth Sounder Bottom from lead line Sound from fog horns & bell/gong buoys RADAR Also, "DR" doesn't include Piloting, or using local geographic features. "Joe" wrote in message om... Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. What was the question again? If you're listing methods of navigating, include inertial tracking. And if Loran is on the list, then Omega should be too. I'm not sure if 'piloting' is a seperate method for this list, but navigating near shore using fixed landmarks is a good method to know. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Who gives a sh&*?
JAXAshby wrote: dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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obviously NOT a dumb squat like you.
From: "DD730" Date: 2/22/2004 6:27 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: m Who gives a sh&*? JAXAshby wrote: dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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You don't know anything about Cal 20s, so just shut up.
"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... ole fart, we were in fact discussing racing a Cal 20, but your mind can't keep up. in addition: When you are working the High side and a gust hit you and causes a 45 degree heel, leeside buried in water and you're sailing thru the air, tell me how high the lifelines should be?? nothing, for you are dead anyway because you are going in the drink and nobody is going to get you back onboard. |
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obviously, you're too stupid to realize that no one give a crap
what you think. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... obviously NOT a dumb squat like you. From: "DD730" Date: 2/22/2004 6:27 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: m Who gives a sh&*? JAXAshby wrote: dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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I would think a compass is implied by DR and Piloting. Is there some other use
you're thinking of? "DD730" wrote in message y.com... Compass Joe wrote: (Suzy Brody) wrote in message . com... Bill, this is a pointless comment and it adds nothing to this topic. Suzy Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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The use of a compass is neither necessary nor sufficient to DR and/or
Piloting. But it can help. Jeff Morris wrote: I would think a compass is implied by DR and Piloting. Is there some other use you're thinking of? "DD730" wrote in message y.com... Compass Joe wrote: (Suzy Brody) wrote in message . com... Bill, this is a pointless comment and it adds nothing to this topic. Suzy Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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Since DR is defined as determining one's position by projecting course and
speed, its a little hard to see how an effective DR is maintained without a compass. I suppose you could call the navigation employed by the Vikings and other Artic travelers, or the Polynesian voyagers "DR without a compass" but I would call it a different style of navigating, not DR as defined by Bowditch. You can make a slightly better case that piloting doesn't require a compass, since there are some piloting techniques that don't use one. "DD730" wrote in message y.com... The use of a compass is neither necessary nor sufficient to DR and/or Piloting. But it can help. Jeff Morris wrote: I would think a compass is implied by DR and Piloting. Is there some other use you're thinking of? "DD730" wrote in message y.com... Compass Joe wrote: (Suzy Brody) wrote in message . com... Bill, this is a pointless comment and it adds nothing to this topic. Suzy Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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even more obviously, dougies cared.
obviously, you're too stupid to realize that no one give a crap what you think. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... obviously NOT a dumb squat like you. From: "DD730" Date: 2/22/2004 6:27 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: m Who gives a sh&*? JAXAshby wrote: dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? Jax (toilet!!), Were you stupid enough to think that all yacht racing required lifelines? Do a Google on "J Class Racing". The finest racing yachts on the ocean sail without lifelines. In fact, no self respecting J Class yachtsman would be seen dead on a boat with lifelines. Here's a photo that was taken a couple of years ago. This yacht was racing when the picture was taken. You may notice that this boat doesn't have any sissy lifelines. http://www.lanode.com/priv/amcup/id29.htm Once again, Jax, you prove that you are a complete twit. Regards Donal -- |
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... "Aye" in my spelling rhymes with "hey" in my pronounciation. Cripes! You can't write any better than you can read!!!! Regards Donal -- |
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donny, the discussion was not about J class racing, now was it.
dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? Jax (toilet!!), Were you stupid enough to think that all yacht racing required lifelines? Do a Google on "J Class Racing". The finest racing yachts on the ocean sail without lifelines. In fact, no self respecting J Class yachtsman would be seen dead on a boat with lifelines. Here's a photo that was taken a couple of years ago. This yacht was racing when the picture was taken. You may notice that this boat doesn't have any sissy lifelines. http://www.lanode.com/priv/amcup/id29.htm Once again, Jax, you prove that you are a complete twit. Regards Donal -- |
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piloting is what I do most often.
Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... (Suzy Brody) wrote in message . com... Bill, this is a pointless comment and it adds nothing to this topic. Suzy Thanks Suzy, And since your new here I give you a few answers and see if you can guess a few others....OK 1. GPS 2. Loran 3. DR 4. celestial 5. Radio Direction Anyone feel free to ad to the list. Joe |
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G I'll just interject one thought he
The terms "piloting" and "DR navigation" are like the term "Fwd Spring" ..... what they mean to one person, is not what they mean to another. Neither person is wrong, but both are not exclusively correct. What's important to remember is how the particular person is using the term. otn |
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Joe,
You left out the most often used Nav system in use; LOCAL KNOWLEDGE Ole Thom |
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This Ole Fart is keeping up with you. In fact just about a "FULL MARK""
ahead of you. Is you would go back and re-read my post, you would see that I have the Col 20 Listed as a racing boat that doesn't use lifelines. Also listed are many class racers that don't require "Lifelines" Why haven't you replied to the old fart about them. I guess we can File Jax's knowledge of racing requirements along with his knowledge of the "Gulf Stream" location. Fuel use of small diesels and Lifelines----- Oh well; As the old saying goes; "It's a GREAT THING TO LOSE A CLOSED MIND!!" Right Jax? You are now excused from the discussion until Nutsy gives you, Susy, Bill and himself the line to follow. You all have been BUSTED from the original topic; "LIFELINE HEIGHT!" Ole Thom With smarter farts than Jax's replies |
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"Piloting" includes a variety of techniques, but I've only heard one definition
of "DR." Some people do include factoring in currents, leeway, etc as part of DR, but anyone who was formally trained (in the US, at least) would plot that as "EP," not "DR." "otnmbrd" wrote in message nk.net... G I'll just interject one thought he The terms "piloting" and "DR navigation" are like the term "Fwd Spring" .... what they mean to one person, is not what they mean to another. Neither person is wrong, but both are not exclusively correct. What's important to remember is how the particular person is using the term. otn |
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Thom,
You are quite right about the Cal 20 class and lifelines. I used to own a Cal 20 and race it in San Pedro, California (Cabrillo Beach Yacht Club). The Cal 20 fleet is very active in L.A. and Long Beach harbors. Mine did not have lifelines, nor do I recall any of the many 20's in the fleet having them. I no longer own a C20 (I now have a 30 footer), but my present slip is immediately adjacent to the dry storage yard for CBYC and I did not observe lifelines on any of the 20s currently stored there. Plus, there is a storage yard about two blocks from there with about 5 or 6 C20s in various stages of renovation--no lifelines on those, either. I'm not saying that nobody has ever put lifelines on a C20, but I've not seen it. In any case, it most definitely was not *required* equipment for class racing--unless, of course, our entire fleet was out of compliance! Cheers, Alan Gomes "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... This Ole Fart is keeping up with you. In fact just about a "FULL MARK"" ahead of you. Is you would go back and re-read my post, you would see that I have the Col 20 Listed as a racing boat that doesn't use lifelines. Also listed are many class racers that don't require "Lifelines" Why haven't you replied to the old fart about them. I guess we can File Jax's knowledge of racing requirements along with his knowledge of the "Gulf Stream" location. Fuel use of small diesels and Lifelines----- Oh well; As the old saying goes; "It's a GREAT THING TO LOSE A CLOSED MIND!!" Right Jax? You are now excused from the discussion until Nutsy gives you, Susy, Bill and himself the line to follow. You all have been BUSTED from the original topic; "LIFELINE HEIGHT!" Ole Thom With smarter farts than Jax's replies |
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Jeff Morris wrote: "Piloting" includes a variety of techniques, but I've only heard one definition of "DR." Some people do include factoring in currents, leeway, etc as part of DR, but anyone who was formally trained (in the US, at least) would plot that as "EP," not "DR." G Guess my "formal" training differed. The only time I ever used "EP" was with a sunline, and once in the real world, I learned that was fairly useless. As stated, "DR" has formal definitions, but in practice, people apply it differently (which includes the use of knowledge of currents and wind to adjust for set and drift)..... again, the fact you don't include set and drift in DR work, and I do, is not important, as long as during the discussion we are aware of the other's usage. otn |
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I've never seen on in the SF bayarea with lifelines either. I believe there
are something on the order of 200 active on the bay. "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:4Rf_b.106409$uV3.589411@attbi_s51... Thom, You are quite right about the Cal 20 class and lifelines. I used to own a Cal 20 and race it in San Pedro, California (Cabrillo Beach Yacht Club). The Cal 20 fleet is very active in L.A. and Long Beach harbors. Mine did not have lifelines, nor do I recall any of the many 20's in the fleet having them. I no longer own a C20 (I now have a 30 footer), but my present slip is immediately adjacent to the dry storage yard for CBYC and I did not observe lifelines on any of the 20s currently stored there. Plus, there is a storage yard about two blocks from there with about 5 or 6 C20s in various stages of renovation--no lifelines on those, either. I'm not saying that nobody has ever put lifelines on a C20, but I've not seen it. In any case, it most definitely was not *required* equipment for class racing--unless, of course, our entire fleet was out of compliance! Cheers, Alan Gomes "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... This Ole Fart is keeping up with you. In fact just about a "FULL MARK"" ahead of you. Is you would go back and re-read my post, you would see that I have the Col 20 Listed as a racing boat that doesn't use lifelines. Also listed are many class racers that don't require "Lifelines" Why haven't you replied to the old fart about them. I guess we can File Jax's knowledge of racing requirements along with his knowledge of the "Gulf Stream" location. Fuel use of small diesels and Lifelines----- Oh well; As the old saying goes; "It's a GREAT THING TO LOSE A CLOSED MIND!!" Right Jax? You are now excused from the discussion until Nutsy gives you, Susy, Bill and himself the line to follow. You all have been BUSTED from the original topic; "LIFELINE HEIGHT!" Ole Thom With smarter farts than Jax's replies |
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even more obviously, you're an idiot.
"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... even more obviously, dougies cared. obviously, you're too stupid to realize that no one give a crap what you think. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... obviously NOT a dumb squat like you. From: "DD730" Date: 2/22/2004 6:27 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: m Who gives a sh&*? JAXAshby wrote: dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? dougies, are you aware that "sophist" and "pig" are synonyms? No, thanks for pointing that out. Everybody (incuding Bob Perry) already knows what JAXAshby is a synonym for. DSK |
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the discussion was actually that you're a very close second to
a second-hand toilet. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... donny, the discussion was not about J class racing, now was it. dougies, are you aware that Bob publicly asked for my technical opinion? Jax (toilet!!), Were you stupid enough to think that all yacht racing required lifelines? Do a Google on "J Class Racing". The finest racing yachts on the ocean sail without lifelines. In fact, no self respecting J Class yachtsman would be seen dead on a boat with lifelines. Here's a photo that was taken a couple of years ago. This yacht was racing when the picture was taken. You may notice that this boat doesn't have any sissy lifelines. http://www.lanode.com/priv/amcup/id29.htm Once again, Jax, you prove that you are a complete twit. Regards Donal -- |
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No Alain,
It's Jax who is out of compliance. He knows he is wrong and is trying to palm off a lie on the Group. Ole Thom |
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Jax admitted:almost. I grew up in Min ah SOW tah.
I'm sorry. What can we do to help? --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Wayzata,
My SIS, the "B" rom Hell, lives in Excelsior (has a Wayzata mailing = address)....Sure your last name isn't Siepp? --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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old codger, you have moved the discussion way off base, apparently just to find
some small area you can claim represents the entire universe, and in the process you are going so far as to claim -- as you do below -- that the Gulf Stream is a river constrained by physical banks so as to always be in the same place, and effect you are saying the Jennifer Clark is peddling bull**** for money. jonny is no racer and knows nothing about racing or lifelines or jacklines or tethers or much of anything else on boats. jonny is a fag ****ed at the world because 98% of all men have no interest in his lifestyle type and most of the final 2% have no interest in him. you, old codger, are just old. This Ole Fart is keeping up with you. In fact just about a "FULL MARK"" ahead of you. Is you would go back and re-read my post, you would see that I have the Col 20 Listed as a racing boat that doesn't use lifelines. Also listed are many class racers that don't require "Lifelines" Why haven't you replied to the old fart about them. I guess we can File Jax's knowledge of racing requirements along with his knowledge of the "Gulf Stream" location. Fuel use of small diesels and Lifelines----- Oh well; As the old saying goes; "It's a GREAT THING TO LOSE A CLOSED MIND!!" Right Jax? You are now excused from the discussion until Nutsy gives you, Susy, Bill and himself the line to follow. You all have been BUSTED from the original topic; "LIFELINE HEIGHT!" Ole Thom With smarter farts than Jax's replies |
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they are required on this end of the world.
with about 5 or 6 C20s in various stages of renovation--no lifelines on those, either. |
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